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Old 02-01-2012, 11:49 PM   #11
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agreed dcp. I get that. and for myself I would do the same. i'm just saying what he has is not outside the realm of OK. my purpose is not to make up a recipe that i like for the OP, but simply to provide help for what he already has. If he had upwards of 50% crystal, I would say something different, like: dude, that's way too much crystal. your beer is probably going to suck. this is not over that threshold yet!

I also think it's a good idea to encourage new brewers to experience what 17.5% crystal tastes like in a grain bill. you can read other people's experiences but how will you ever know what it's like without trying it yourself? i don't think this recipe is BAD and I don't have a clue what his intent is. Maybe he wants a heavy bodied, malty IPA. he definitely didn't say this was for a competition.

So i'm just offering suggestions for brightening the hops, mashing low to get the max attenuation, etc.

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Old 02-02-2012, 01:19 PM   #12
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I guess it depends what you're looking for in an IIPA (sweet or dry), but nearly 20% crystal is alot for nearly any beer. the size of the beer should give it plenty of body n malt so with all that crystal its going to come off more barleywine than IIPA. id keep it 10% or less
Are the Cara-Pils and Honey malt considered crystal? Right now the 40L is only 7.4% of my grain bill.

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oh and i definitely would move that simcoe to later in the boil. its kind of a waste of a very limited hop to not take advantage of its best properties (flavor/aroma)
Thanks for the tip. Reading up a bit more on the hop and how it should be utilized I think I am going to move it to 20 minutes and up it to 1 oz.
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Old 02-02-2012, 01:36 PM   #13
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OK. Updated everything in the OP.

I took away the 90 minute hop additions and moved the simcoe to 20 minutes, adjusted the mash temp from 152 to 150.

As for what I am looking for in this beer...big bodied, slightly boozy, with a lot of citrus and pine aroma and a its sweetness to marry well with the booze.

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Old 02-02-2012, 02:30 PM   #14
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Are the Cara-Pils and Honey malt considered crystal? Right now the 40L is only 7.4% of my grain bill.
while the honey malt is done by a different process, it still adds alot of sweetness like crystal malt so it should be considered in the same tally. carapils doesnt add any sweetness to it, but its more or less a crystal depending on who you talk to. you really don't have much more of these than BierMuncher's IIPA tho, so it may not be as sweet as I was expecting

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Old 02-02-2012, 03:29 PM   #15
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I would go down to a pound of 40, lose the carapils and sub some white wheat in its' place (more fermentable than carapils). Maybe 4 oz of honey max if you really want it but it's not really necessary. I'd also consider a pound of dextrose to help dry it out and make it more fermentable. You want this beer to dry out as much as possible. Maybe pitch a 2500 mL starter of WLP001/1056 and O2 for sure if you have a stone to make sure it attenuates. There is nothing worse than a DIPA that doesn't finish out...

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Old 02-02-2012, 03:32 PM   #16
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I would consider adding Simcoe to your dry hop bill. I've had great results doing that, though I understand a cost standpoint since they aren't cheap by any means.

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Updated OP again. Dropped the 40L to 1 lbs (down from 1lb 4 oz) Replaced the Cara with white wheat and reduced the honey malt to 6 oz. After doing some more research I think with the amount of honey malt I was using was going to be to sweet.

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Sounds good. Honey malt is powerful stuff. Use sparingly for best results.

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Try adding the 15 and 10 min hops as a first wort hops addition.

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Try adding the 15 and 10 min hops as a first wort hops addition.
If it first wort hopped I would run into boiling the hops 90 minutes which I was told can lead to cooked vegetable flavors.
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