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Old 01-19-2013, 11:34 AM   #11
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6-row was the standard for most American beers prior to Prohibition from what I understand. It also is on par with standard American 2-row but still retains the larger grain husk. I think that's where it helps with beer clarity.

Unless you live in Wisconsin, you won't get any New Glarus beers! The company only sells there and they have a hard enough time keeping up with demand. Genessee is an ok example but I guarantee yours will be tons better! You won't have to worry about pasteurizing or long shelf life that would diminish lesser beers.

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Old 01-24-2013, 02:41 AM   #12
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Went and picked up all the ingredients from the LHBS. The store expert said 6-row had to have a step mash and I shouldn't do it in BIAB so reluctantly got 2-row. Victory instead of biscuit.

For the future, is his step mash only correct for 6-row?

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:32 PM   #13
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6 Row Barley has more protein and more enzymes than 2 Row.

The increase in enzymes make it ideal for high adjunct beers.

The increase in protein make it ideal for feeding to livestock.

Modern well modified 6 Row does not require or benefit from a step mash. The so called "expert" was probably referring to a protein rest or a beta amylase rest. Neither is necessary.

You could have easily done this BIAB.

Be cautious when speaking to local homebrew store owners. Their agenda is to sell the products they have and, if possible, to sell the products with the highest profit margins.

Next time, don't speak to them regarding what it is you are doing, they will impose their agenda on you. Just do what you have planned to do and see how it turns out! That's what makes the hobby fun.

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Old 01-24-2013, 01:36 PM   #14
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Went and picked up all the ingredients from the LHBS. The store expert said 6-row had to have a step mash and I shouldn't do it in BIAB so reluctantly got 2-row. Victory instead of biscuit.

For the future, is his step mash only correct for 6-row?
No. Sure, you could do a protein rest, but it's not necessary at all!
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Old 01-24-2013, 03:15 PM   #15
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Thank you both, HBT is a much more reliable resource.

"Modern well modified 6 Row does not require or benefit from a step mash. The so called "expert" was probably referring to a protein rest or a beta amylase rest. Neither is necessary."

Haha I meant to put expert in quotes too. Yeah he mentioned both a protein rest and step mash but didn't know if they were the same thing. After he told me it would be impossible to brew 6-row in BIAB I asked if he had ever brew that way and he hadn't...

I think he was trying to help but oh well live you learn.

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Old 01-24-2013, 03:40 PM   #16
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Man, I've made several cream ale batches with BIAB and six row and never had a problem.

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good thing nobody told my 6-row it wouldn't work in a bag

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Old 01-27-2013, 06:41 PM   #18
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Brewed this yesterday with only a few problems. I'm unsure how well I kept the temperature at 150. I would stir the grains every 15 minutes but when I'd remove the lid the thermometer would read 160 but once stirred it would be between 148 and 152.

Pre boil gravity was 1.044 and after was 1.052 (target 1.056) and a little more than 2.5 gallons.

Bubbling away starting in about 8 hours.

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Old 02-16-2013, 04:48 AM   #19
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Bottled tonight and sample tasted very good. FG 1.007 and very clear, California Common did great.

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So I've had a few bottles of this now so thought I'd update with results.

I thought the California Lager yeast did a good job, very crisp and clean. When I brew this again I'll use 6-Row for sure, maybe add 1 oz more of victory to change the color slightly and possible lower the % of corn slightly.

For the hops, Cascades didn't seem to fit the style well, I have no problem with them but I'd probably use something closer to a noble hop. Maybe Willamette, Saaz, or Crystal. I think with such a clean pallet something like Centennial would be fun but I probably use those too often.

All together I am very happy with my first successful All-Grain and since brewing this I've upgraded to a 10 gallon mast tun.

Anyways cheers!

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