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Old 03-22-2013, 02:13 PM   #11
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I use BeerSmith at home and Hopville at work (since it is available online)

I throttled back the roast a bit and added some mid level roasted malts in for more flavor and less color and roast character. As for the flaked adjuncts... I used oats for the mouthfeel but I haven't read anywhere that they will aid with the creamy head of the beer so that is why the flaked barley is there. I have heard oats will add a creaminess to the feel of the beer but that is it where as flaked barley will do a little of that but really help with the head of the beer. I figured a little of both for good measure.

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Old 03-22-2013, 03:53 PM   #12
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Also for adding the coffee, cocoa and vanilla my plans are as follows:

  • Add 6 oz of unsweetened cocoa powder at about 5 minutes in the boil
  • cold brew about 1 quart of kona coffee with 2 oz. of cocoa powder thrown in for good measure
  • Use 1-2 vanilla beans, cut up and scraped, in a muslin bag in secondary for 1 week
  • boil cold brewed coffee/cocoa mixture, add priming sugar and add that at the time of bottling

From all my reading, this seems the best way to ensure:
  1. Good cocoa flavor
  2. Coffee aroma and flavor without the oils or bitterness from hot brewing it
  3. a nice touch of vanilla to accent the chocolate flavors

thoughts?
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:16 PM   #13
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You plan looks good. You may want to consider cocoa nibs, as they are easier to handle than cocoa powder.

Also with the coffee I would add a little, take a sample, then continue adding until desired. Although that may be hard to judge in the secondary or during bottling.

I might try your updated grain bill and up the MO as well, making it a Imperial Stout and keeping the hops the same!

Please keep us updated on how it went!

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Here's a link from a discussion of nibs vs. powder

http://www.homebrewersassociation.or...p?topic=4794.0

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There seems to be a lot of mixed opinions on the use of powder or nibs. I have heard nibs contain the oils so they can kill head retention. I think I am just going to try the powder and see what it does for the flavor... Worst case scenario its an experiment and I learn from it.

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For those that care, I brewed this up on Saturday. Tasted and smelled amazing out of the tun and kettle. I pitched about 1.5 packs of US-05 into it and it is currently gurgling away.

I ended up substituting the Crystal 80 for Crystal 60 and adding 0.25# of Rice Hulls since I was worried about the Flaked Adjuncts sticking things up... no issues though.

The final recipes was:
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  • 10# Maris Otter
  • 1# Flaked Oats
  • 0.75# Flaked Barley
  • 0.75# Crystal 60
  • 0.5# Midnight Wheat
  • 0.5# Pale Chocolate 200L
  • 0.5# Victory (I thought this was a good idea in Yooper's for that nutty toasty addition)
  • 0.25# Roasted Barley
  • 0.25# Rice Hulls
Hops
  • 1 oz. Nugget @ 60min
  • 1oz. Willamette @ 15min

I hit 1.068 for an OG which put me around 77% efficiency, my highest yet. So now we wait.
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This batch is a dud. Got infected with whatever turns things to vinegar. Tastes terrible... dumping it soon... just haven't worked up the heart to do so.

Better luck next time.

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