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Old 03-19-2013, 06:56 PM   #1
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Default Cocoa Kona Stout - Advice Please

Howdy! This is my first attempt at an All-Grain Stout. I typically don't like stouts but wanted to try my hand and something similar to Founder's Breakfast Stout. A little stronger with a lot of flavor. Please let me know what you think and if the flavorings or any ingredient should be tweaked.

Batch Size: 5.5 gallons
Target OG: 1.076
Target FG: 1.019
IBU: 54
SRM: 50+
Yeast: US-05
Efficiency: 70%

Ingredients:
Grist---------------

  • 12# Maris Otter
  • 1.5# Flaked Oats
  • 1# Chocolate Malt
  • 1# Flaked Barley
  • 0.75# Midnight Wheat
  • 0.75# Roasted Barley
  • 0.75# Crystal 120
Hops-------------
  • 1 oz. Nugget @ 60min
  • 2 oz. Willamette @ 15 min.
Misc--------------
  • 6 oz. Unsweetened Cocoa Powder @ 10min
  • 2 oz. Kona Coffee Grounds @ Flame-Out
  • 2 oz. Kona Coffee @ Bottling
  • 0.25 oz Chocolate Extract @ Bottling
  • 0.25 oz. Vanilla Extract @ Bottling

Mash at 154F for 60 minutes (I have heard adding some cocoa powder here could be a good thing... thoughts??)

This will only be my 4th AG batch so any help is greatly appreciated... I also have never added this many flavor components to a beer.
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Old 03-20-2013, 11:46 AM   #2
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Old 03-21-2013, 12:10 PM   #3
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #4
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well this is a little ridiculous... I guess if this was an IPA recipe this post would have 50 pages of people arguing hop additions...

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Looks cool to me. that is a lot of dark malts going in. I have never added more than about 1/4 lb of chocolate. But I have not made something like this, but think I might borrow from your recipe and see what happens.

What is your mash set up like and do you buy the grains already crushed? I had a HUGE jump in efficiency once I bought a barley crusher.

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Ha! I feel ya.
I can't offer advice because I've only done 1 all grain batch so far but this sounds good to me. I was actually thinking of doing a stout because my Mother-In-Law came back from Nashville and couldn't stop talking about a chocolate banana stout she had from a local brewery there(name?). And this is a person that I have never seen drink a beer!

Good luck, let us know how it turns out if you brew it.

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Your color was off the charts when calculated by brewersfriend.com. You maybe want to temper down your roasted malts.

Up to you though. Here is a comparison for a good oatmeal stout from Yooper:


http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/yoopers-oatmeal-stout-210376/

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Yeah there are a lot of dark malts. I wanted some roasted character without hitting that bitterness level that they sometimes give off. That is why I went for midnight wheat and a little roasted barley. The chocolate could probably be throttled back a little but I don't want to lose too much of that flavor.

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I am not an expert in breakfast stouts, but it looks like you are close to some of the clones on here. I think it will depend on your taste and your audience. I made a brown porter that I liked, but it was pretty roasty. I was just making it for me though, and didn't really care about style. What matters is what I learned from it though. I'd just scale back just a 1/4 -1/8 lb on all the roasted, or take some of the flaked redundancies out, then you can always go further with the next one. Happy Brewing!

Are you using a program to do your recipes? If not I can put them in my brewersfriend and send you the stats.

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So I took a look at Yooper's recipe and made some changes. I had originally worked off of a Founder's Breakfast Stout clone recipe but it is probably good to take something from a couple of sources.

Here is the recipe as it stands now:
Target OG: 1.061
Target FG: 1.015
Batch Size: 5.5 gallons
Efficiency: 70%
IBU: 52 or so
SRM: 40+ Black

Malts

  • 10# Maris Otter
  • 1# Flaked Oats
  • 0.75# Flaked Barley
  • 0.75# Crystal 80
  • 0.5# Midnight Wheat
  • 0.5# Pale Chocolate 200L
  • 0.5# Victory (I thought this was a good idea in Yooper's for that nutty toasty addition)
  • 0.25# Roasted Barley
Hops
  • 1 oz. Nugget @ 60min
  • 1oz. Willamette @ 15min

Pitch with US-05 x 2
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