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Old 02-16-2012, 05:27 PM   #1
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This is either a REALLY good idea, or the worst idea ever. Here's what I was thinking....

"Clown Juice"

Base: Strong Belgian Style Ale, ~10-12%ABV; 10% Light Crystal (should be sweet); Maybe 30% Wheat Malt?

Yeast: Wyeast 1388?

Hops: No bittering hops, but lots of late addition fruity hops- Amarillo if I can source them. Maybe some Nelson Sauvin as well? Dry hopped with more Amarillo.

Other Additions: Cotton Candy Syrup in place of Belgian Candy Syrup
Like this one?
http://www.amazon.com/Jelly-Belly-Cotton-Candy-Syrup/dp/B004KKXHZG
+ Citrus Zest (tangerine, grapefruit, lemon).

Would ferment this warm (probably wait until summer to do this) to encourage ester formation (bubblegum, even would not be amiss?).

Am I insane?

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Old 02-16-2012, 05:47 PM   #2
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I couldn't find the ingredients for that syrup anywhere but I am betting it had preservatives which might mess with your yeast. But I guess you could buy some and see whats in it. Sounds interesting though to say the least.

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Old 02-16-2012, 05:50 PM   #3
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cotton candy syrup... are you speaking about like the flavoring put on top of snocones?
the only cotton candy stuff i can think of is floss sugar which goes into cotton candy machines.

honestly, when i first saw the title, i immediately thought of this syrupy nasty icky nana.... or you had a bunch of left over juice that you wanted to throw yeast on lol

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:05 PM   #4
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There is also cotton candy flavor extract too...
I know, its a little strange!

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Old 02-16-2012, 06:16 PM   #5
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I think this is an awesome idea (I lmao when I read the thread title)!! If it's bubblegum you want then I would suggest a different yeast. I get very little of that flavor/aroma from wy1388/wlp570. I would think wy1214 or wlp530 might be more appropriate but hey, what do I know. Either way I think you should definitely give this a shot and see how it comes out. Just make sure whichever syrup you use doesn't have any nasty preservatives that will inhibit fermentation. Rock on sir, I salute you!

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Old 02-16-2012, 07:23 PM   #6
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Most likely, their flavoring syrup is a combination of water, possibly some alcohol, proylene glycol (to make it thicker without using so much sugar), then a few sugars and maybe non-sugar sweeteners, and finally, the one flavor that actually makes it taste like cotton candy:

Ethyl Maltol, which is also available from a number of places in it's dry form, and can easily be dissolved in something like beer (either with a little vodka first, or pg, or directly)
Hell, I'm relatively certain that it's non-fermentable, so you could probably just toss a bit into your boil.

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Old 02-16-2012, 07:29 PM   #7
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I have no idea whether or not this will ferment well and taste good, but the name "Clown Juice" just sounds...icky.

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Fascinating, thank you! It might be a while before I get around to this one, but will keep you all posted.

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I made a label, lol.

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I say do it. I like the idea, label is great also.

I would think the citrus might clash with the bubblegum esters and more so the cotton candy flavours. Personally, while it was fermenting I would take the citrus and soak it in some decent vodka to make an extract, then post-ferment spike some samples to see if the citrus works. I made a citrus-vodka extract once to top up the flavour in a wit, it worked really well.

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