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Old 07-17-2008, 07:44 PM   #1
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Looking for a good extract clone for Negra Modelo

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Old 07-17-2008, 08:11 PM   #2
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Found this on another board....can't vouch for it.

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Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.50 Wort Size (Gal): 5.50
Total Grain (Lbs): 11.47
Anticipated OG: 1.052 Plato: 12.8
Anticipated SRM: 11.4
Anticipated IBU: 25.3
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 75 Minutes


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% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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69.7 8.00 lbs. Vienna Malt America 1.035 4
8.7 1.00 lbs. Munich Malt Germany 1.037 8
10.4 1.20 lbs. Flaked Corn (Maize) America 1.040 1
7.8 0.90 lbs. CaraVienne Malt Belgium 1.034 22
2.6 0.30 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
0.7 0.08 lbs. Black Malt Belgium 1.030 600

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.60 oz. Spalter Spalt Whole 4.75 10.2 75 min.
0.50 oz. Spalter Spalt Whole 4.75 6.3 30 min.
0.50 oz. Hallertauer Mittelfruh Whole 4.50 5.9 30 min.
0.50 oz. Hallertauer Mittelfruh Whole 4.50 2.8 10 min.


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White Labs WLP940 Mexican Lager
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:13 PM   #3
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Here's an extract with Grains, from the book Clone Brews

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Steep @ 150F for 20 mins

6oz 60l crystal
8oz german vienna
2oz choc malt

strain and remove grain
Add
3lb m&f light DME
3.3lb Bierkeller light malt syrup
1oz Hallertau Hersbruker @ 3% AA
1oz Tettnanger @ 4% AA

bring volume of brewpot to 2.5 gals and boil for 50 mins

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1/2oz Tettnanger
1tsp irish moss

Pitch
1st choice Wyeasts 2124
2nd choice wyeasts 2206 (I used the 2206)

og 1.050 - 1.051
fg 1.011 - 1.013
srm 21
ibu 27
abv 4.9%
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:43 PM   #4
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Not sure you can get completely there with extract brewing. Negra Mod is a Vienna Lager which will call for at least 70% Vienna malt in the mash. You wont get the effect by steeping a lb or so of Vienna and mixing with Pale DME.

EDIT - Whoops on my spelling, that was really bad. Sorry!

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Old 07-17-2008, 09:01 PM   #5
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:05 PM   #6
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when ya find one let me know. havent looked to hard but love the beer

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I know there's a kit for it too, but I don't know who makes it...

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I brewed an AG clone and it came out pretty good. I didn't proof my yeast by doing a starter so my FG ended up at 1.018 which made it way too sweet and malty. Negra finishes real clean and probly needs to ferment down to 1.012.

Here's what I did in a 5 gallon batch size:

vienna malt (3.5 srm) 77%
munich malt (9.0 srm) 14%
caravienna malt (22.0 srm) 4%
flaked corn(1.3 srm) 4%
carafa II (412.0 srm) 1%

Hops:

1 oz. vangaurd 60 min.
1 oz. vangaurd 30 min.

Mash: 149 for 75 min. raise to 168, mash out
Sparge: 170 for 1 hour
efficiency: 75%
Yeast: WLP940 - Mexican Lager yeast

OG - 1.058
FG - 1.018 (Target was 1.012, would have got me 6%ABV)
IBU - 25
srm - 14.5
5.22% ABV

What would I do different?
1. Do a starter to proof yeast, 6 viles of old yeast did not perform, and it cost me too much money!
2. Use less of the carafa II, came out darker than expected.
3. Use some pilsner base malt to add some more fermentables or mash for 90 min. Vienna malt doesn't seem to be as fermentable.
4. Probly use different hops, and up the IBU's a bit.

Hope this helps, I will probably attempt this again next summer.

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when ya find one let me know. havent looked to hard but love the beer


Have any of you had it south of the border? It taste completely different and is incredible...Especially if you are camped out on a sandbar with a beautiful woman.
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...Especially if you are camped out on a sandbar with a beautiful woman.
Everything tastes incredible when you are camped out on a sandbar with beautiful women.
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