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Old 09-30-2010, 06:32 PM   #1
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In the flavor and the aroma additions, does this combination work well or do they fight each other for their place in the flavor and/or aroma profiles? In my experience with Amarillo, very pit-fruit character like peach-mango-apricot etc... in reading about citras they sound similar. My question is whether or not they compliment each other or if they are like 2 positive ends of a magnet trying to repel each other.. if that makes sense.

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Old 09-30-2010, 07:22 PM   #2
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They work very well together in my opinion. I make an Amarillo-Citra pale ale that everyone agrees is very good. I posted the recipe for another member and after he made it said it was one of the best beers he's made so far. If you want the recipe, I can dig the post up for you. Cheers!
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Old 10-01-2010, 07:01 PM   #3
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I just brewed up a "Grapefruit Pale Ale" in which I have 0.5 oz each of Amarillo, Cascade, and Citra first wort hopped (also 0.5 oz Simcoe boiled for 60 minutes). It just finished fermenting and last night I took a sample. The aroma was amazing! It was like pineapple/mango/tropical fruit. For only FWH (no late additions) I was very impressed! I would say most of the aroma was contributed by the Citra -- it seems to be more potent on a per weight basis. For more of a balance, I'd go 2 parts amarillo for 1 citra.

The flavor was spot on grapefruit (which is what I was going for). From this experience, I would certainly say that they play well together. I can't wait to dry hop with the same combo that I first wort hopped with. Go for it!

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How long did you boil the amarillo, cascade, and citra for? 60 minutes as well?

TomRep please post your recipe. I bottled my Simtra IPA two weeks ago and tasted one at the 7 day mark in bottles. BEST IPA I have ever had. Used Simcoe and Citra hops both in the boil and dry hopped

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How long did you boil the amarillo, cascade, and citra for? 60 minutes as well?

TomRep please post your recipe. I bottled my Simtra IPA two weeks ago and tasted one at the 7 day mark in bottles. BEST IPA I have ever had. Used Simcoe and Citra hops both in the boil and dry hopped
Yep, 60 minute boil.

Do you have a link for your recipe for Simtra IPA? That sounds interesting as well!
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Here is the recipe (extract)

This is a great IPA that I brewed a little over 6 weeks ago. It turned out PERFECT. It utilizes one of the trendiest hops right now Citra with one of my favorite hops, Simcoe.

8.5 lbs Light Liquid Malt Extract
.75 lbs Crystal 50L
.25 Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt
.50 lbs Wheat Malt

1.5 oz Simcoe whole AA%12.9 (60 min)
.75 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (15 min)
.75 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (5 min)
.50 oz Simcoe whole AA%12.9 (dry hop - secondary)
.50 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (dry hop - secondary)

1.00 tsp Gypsum (60 min)
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (20 min)

WLP007 Dry English Ale


Final ABV in my batch was 6.9%

Great hoppy beer, with enough tartness from the grapefruit notes in the citrus to really bring it all together. One of the best beers I have ever made!

So with yours you had 4 hops boil for 60 minutes?

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Very good combo. See my dropdown for my personal recipe that has been very well received in the hb community.

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Here is the recipe (extract)

This is a great IPA that I brewed a little over 6 weeks ago. It turned out PERFECT. It utilizes one of the trendiest hops right now Citra with one of my favorite hops, Simcoe.

8.5 lbs Light Liquid Malt Extract
.75 lbs Crystal 50L
.25 Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt
.50 lbs Wheat Malt

1.5 oz Simcoe whole AA%12.9 (60 min)
.75 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (15 min)
.75 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (5 min)
.50 oz Simcoe whole AA%12.9 (dry hop - secondary)
.50 oz Citra pellet AA%11.10 (dry hop - secondary)

1.00 tsp Gypsum (60 min)
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (20 min)

WLP007 Dry English Ale


Final ABV in my batch was 6.9%

Great hoppy beer, with enough tartness from the grapefruit notes in the citrus to really bring it all together. One of the best beers I have ever made!

So with yours you had 4 hops boil for 60 minutes?
That looks like a nice recipe. It seems like the perception with Citra is that it's best for flavor and aroma rather than bittering. Since Simcoe has a reasonably low cohumulone content, it makes sense to use that as your primary boiling hop. I'll have to keep something like that in mind.


Yes, so I threw the Amarillo, Cascade, and Citra in with the first wort runnings. Sparged, then brought to a boil and threw in the Simcoe. Boiled for 60 minutes, threw in zest of 1 grapefruit at flameout, then cooled.
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You don't have a converted extract version do you? Haven't made the leap yet to AG due to space limitations and such but that looks tasty!

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Scotty - Do you have a link to your full recipe? I assume by your response it is AG and I have only been doing extract w/grains so far.

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