dummkauf

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Since I've recently become a HUGE fan of Two Brothers Cane and Ebel, I have decided it's time to brew up a batch, but can't find much in the way of clones. Doing some googling I found this: http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?p=552036&sid=fe176c6d5cf38b37cc68eeb 9bcf046ac

Which lists info that apparently came from one of the two brothers

I then started punching numbers into BeerSmith and this is what I've come up with and I would appreciate any advice, or recipes if anyone has successfully cloned this one already. I haven't gotten to the mash yet, but the link recommends mashing in the mid 150's, and I was thinking of just going for an even 155(that's as "mid" as it gets )

Recipe: Cane & Ebel Clone
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.072 SG
Estimated Color: 17.5 SRM
Estimated IBU: 66.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 60.00 %
Boil Time: 75 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
10.00 lb Pilsner (2 Row) UK (1.0 SRM) Grain 61.37 %
2.00 lb Rye Malt (4.7 SRM) Grain 12.27 %
1.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 7.67 %
0.50 lb Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.07 %
0.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 3.07 %
0.25 lb Black (Patent) Malt (500.0 SRM) Grain 1.53 %
0.05 lb Crystal Rye (90.0 SRM) Grain 0.28 %
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (75 min) Hops 17.6 IBU
0.50 oz Summit [18.50 %] (75 min) Hops 23.2 IBU
1.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (55 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
0.25 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (50 min) Hops 8.0 IBU
0.25 oz Summit [18.50 %] (45 min) Hops 10.2 IBU
0.75 lb Palm Sugar (3.0 SRM) Sugar 4.60 %



Thoughts?

dummkauf

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also, does anyone know what yeast strain Two Bros are using? or if it is a house strain, any suggestions for a good substitute?

saltydawg

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A thread at Northern Brewer forum says Cal-ale.... heres the link.

http://forum.northernbrewer.com/viewtopic.php?p=552036&sid=fe176c6d5cf38b37cc68eeb 9bcf046ac

dummkauf

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found that one already, that's actually what I used as a reference to put the above recipe together, but I am looking for input from anyone who may have tried cloning it as well as anyone who might know if they use a publicly available yeast strain?

thejakeshow

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I have always wanted to clone this from that same information on Northern Brewer, but haven't done it yet.

I believe your crystal rye may be off. The description called for 3%, not 0.3%.

Are you going to get "thai" palm sugar? Who is your source?

dummkauf

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Thanks for pointing that out, I think that should've been 0.5 and not 0.05. Just ran a quick Excel sheet since I'm at work and this looks a bit closer to the percentages from NB

Lbs Malt Percentage
10 Pilsner 69%
1.75 Rye malt 12%
1.15 10L 8%
0.5 Melanoiden 3%
0.5 Munich 3%
0.1 black patent 1%
0.5 Crystal Rye 3%

Total Lbs 14.5


As far as the Thai Palm sugar, was just going to check one of the Asian markets in the Minneapolis area for it, otherwise you can order it online:
It's probably going to be about 4 or 5 weeks before I'll have time to brew another batch so this will be on hold for a bit anyway, I think I might just try emailing them about the yeast strain since they seemed very friendly at the brewery and the NB response looks promising.

dummkauf

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Ok, I think I am going to try this one either this coming weekend or next. I got the following response back from Two Brothers after emailing them asking about the recipe and the yeast



The recipe probably did come from us. We share our recipes with homebrewers all the time. Here is a little more refined recipe you can use as well. Good luck.

9.5 lbs. Pilsner
1.5 lbs. Rye
1 lb. Crystal 10L
.5 lb. Munich
.5 lb. Melanoiden (or Aromatic)
.5 lb. Rye Crystal
2 oz. Black Malt (Thomas Fawcett)

Strike 168
Mash 154 for 60 minutes
75% Efficiency
1.072 Target OG

Collect 7 Gallons Wort
75 Minute Boil

75 Minutes 1 lb. Thai Palm Sugar
60 Minutes .5 oz Columbus and .05 oz Summit (or Warrior)
30 Minutes .5 oz Summit (or Warrior)
25 Minutes .5 oz Columbus
20 Minutes .5 oz Simcoe
Dry 2.0 oz Simcoe

Final volume 5 gallons

Wyeast 1332 (Northwest Ale) OR White Labs WLP005 (British Ale)

1.022 Target FG
6.7% ABV
63 IBU


Cheers,

Two Brothers Brewing Company
30w315 Calumet Ave.
Warrenville, IL 60555

saltydawg

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WOW! Way to go... when I emailed them, I never got any reply at all.

My wife loves this beer. I have a local source for the Palm sugar(Asian Market). All I need to do is order, or make, the Rye Crystal malt. I'm putting this beer on my list.

THANKS for posting the reply email.

dummkauf

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NP!!! Let me know how it turns out.

ndhoffma

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I think I will be trying this recipe as well in a bit - Ill post results once I get a chance to brew it up