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Old 10-11-2011, 08:01 PM   #1
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Default Can You Brew It recipe for Wychwood Hobgoblin

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OG 1046
FG ?
IBUs 36.3
SRM 15.5

90% UK Pale Ale Malt 4.29kg
7.5% British Crystal 75-80love. 360g
2% British Chocolate malt 100g
0.5% cane sugar 20g

Mash at 153F for one hour.

Boil for 60min

14g Kent Goldings 4.75%AA 60'
14g Fuggles 5%AA 60'
16g Cascade 5.75%AA 15'
64g Styrian Goldings 5.25%AA 15'

WLP023, ferment at 61F, rise to 68F over 3 days.


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Old 11-14-2011, 06:42 PM   #2
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This will probably be my next brew, altough I've never had the original.

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:03 AM   #3
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There are some strange elements in here.

  • 20 grams of sugar - it really doesn't seem to add much (little OG/FG effects)
    Cascade hops - not in the original (original is Fuggles + Styrian Golding)
    IBU level 36/38 doesn't come through that high in the original (closer to 20s)

FG would come in around 1.012, but I think the original is closer to 1.014.

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Old 11-15-2011, 04:49 PM   #4
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There are some strange elements in here.
  • 20 grams of sugar - it really doesn't seem to add much (little OG/FG effects)
    Cascade hops - not in the original (original is Fuggles + Styrian Golding)
    IBU level 36/38 doesn't come through that high in the original (closer to 20s)

FG would come in around 1.012, but I think the original is closer to 1.014.

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Thoughts ? You didn't listen to the podcast All the info was given by the headbrewer. Maybe he's trying to lead us poor homebrewers on a wild goose chase, but I doubt it.

The sugar was because of the mash tun size if I remember right. They add a small fraction of invert to get the gravity right with their setup. The cascade he specifically mentionned, along with the IBUs. Now, I don't think the headbrewer mentionned how he came up with 36 and he was a bit more secretive about the finishing styrian hops than with the initial bittering charge.
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Old 11-16-2011, 02:29 AM   #5
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Okay, I listened to the podcast...

I see where Cascade came from - strange that it didn't make it to the bottle label.

I was surprised to hear the brewer say they used crystal 150. The clone brew uses crystal 75.

I still don't understand why the high bitterness vs. what the head brewer said he get -
36 vs 25 Rager (which is like 21 Tinseth) The brewer mentioned that they use whirlpool hops (which I'm reading to be hops added at flameout and while whirlpooling to settle trub.) So I wonder why they put their addition at 15mins. Moving the 15min addition to flameout drops the bitterness to 15IBU.

Its funny that they choose WLP023 (aka Wy1275) the Brakespear yeast - when others have said this isn't the one they use. I guess, as they said, this is the closest.

I will have to try this, but without the higher hop level. I'm going to empty a keg of orfy's hobgoblin as it is too bitter - possibly due to the missed brewing salt additions?!

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Old 11-16-2011, 02:39 AM   #6
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Try dry hopping the beer, even if it isn't to style you'd be amazed at how that can knock down the bitterness of an overly bitter batch. I've done that a few times for the win.

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I was surprised to hear the brewer say they used crystal 150. The clone brew uses crystal 75.
English color units are x2 North American numbers, so 75L is pretty much 150 EBC.
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So has anybody tried this version? I"m drinking the real thing right now, and I gotta brew up a batch. This stuff is awesome.

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I've brewed Orfy's Hobgoblin II recipe on this site and it was scrumptious. Didn't last long

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Thanks for the info, I think I'm gonna go with that recipe then. Is it close to the real thing? I remember reading a whole thread about one of Orfy's clones, but can't find it anymore.

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