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Old 02-25-2013, 02:47 AM   #561
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Hard to say but I think the Chinook, Special B, British Crystal 135/165L, and WLP007 was closest. It was not as hoppy as it needed to be, but the malt was spot on and it had that residual sweetness I detect in AB. I actually did a split batch with this one, using WLP007 and WLP002. I had a friend do a taste test and he thought the 007 was closer, but it was not as hoppy (but close!) and the beer was flatter ( I think I targeted 2.2 volumes when I should have added enough sugar for 2.7 or higher; I usually keg so my bottling needs some work).

Just ordered C150 from Austin so I will do the next one with Chinook, WLP007, and C150 ( I also throw in some carapils...8oz..this has a rock solid head and beautiful lace). Will let you know how it comes out. The one I am drinking now had about 25% more Chinook and I think it is still a little shy on the hop side. Probably will bump this to 1/2 lb or a little more...all in the boil and whirlpool. I do not dry hop this at all.

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Old 03-21-2013, 02:26 AM   #563
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I'm planning on brewing this in the next few weeks. Just wondering how those who've aimed for 1.018 FG thought theirs turned out. I'm splitting this batch and trying both 002 and 007. I may use caramel 135-160 instead. Haven't yet decided. I think I may also try doing a long 60-90 minute steep at around 200 degrees after the boil (which I have read stone does for most brews). Any advise from those who've tried cloning this before is very much appreciated as this is my first attempt.



Arrogant Bastard

Style: Unassigned OG: 1.073
Type: FG: 1.018
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 7.20 %
Calories: 238 IBU's: 96.91
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 14.00 Gal
Color: 21.8 SRM Batch Size: 11.00 Gal
Preboil OG: 1.060 Boil Time: 90 min

Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
29.70 lbs 90.00 % Briess 2-Row Brewers Malt 60 mins 1.037
3.30 lbs 10.00 % Special B Malt 60 mins 1.030

Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
2.00 ozs 39.97 Chinook 90 mins 13.00
2.00 ozs 34.30 Chinook 45 mins 13.00
2.00 ozs 22.64 Chinook 20 mins 13.00
2.00 ozs 0.00 Chinook 0 mins 13.00

Yeasts
Split batch half with 002 and half with 007

Mash at 154

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Old 03-21-2013, 10:29 AM   #564
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Now I'm not sure how to approach this. I left this sample of AB sit out overnight and it looks like its around 1.013? Which is 5 points different from the sample FG posted earlier on in this thread.
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Now I'm not sure how to approach this. I left this sample of AB sit out overnight and it looks like its around 1.013? Which is 5 points different from the sample FG posted earlier on in this thread.
It will be fine, just a little more dry. Which yeast was this one from? The 002 will likely come out higher and the 007 will likely come out lower in my experiences...
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It will be fine, just a little more dry. Which yeast was this one from? The 002 will likely come out higher and the 007 will likely come out lower in my experiences...
Sorry for the confusion. That sample was from a bottle of Stone's arrogant bastard. I haven't decided on my recipe yet
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Ahhh! I don't think I would be too concerned with 5 points, but I would probably try to hit that as your FG anyway. Since we don't know what the SG was for AB, this is a bit of a guessing game. Good data point though! Cheers!

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Well I saved my hydro sample of the commercial AB and now that I'm home from work it is at 1.018, matching what someone else posted earlier in this thread. It must have still had some co2 left in it this morning even though it had sat out for 10 or so hours overnight. So I might shoot for a higher og and higher mash temp when I brew this.

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Hard to say but I think the Chinook, Special B, British Crystal 135/165L, and WLP007 was closest. It was not as hoppy as it needed to be, but the malt was spot on and it had that residual sweetness I detect in AB. I actually did a split batch with this one, using WLP007 and WLP002. I had a friend do a taste test and he thought the 007 was closer, but it was not as hoppy (but close!) and the beer was flatter ( I think I targeted 2.2 volumes when I should have added enough sugar for 2.7 or higher; I usually keg so my bottling needs some work).

Just ordered C150 from Austin so I will do the next one with Chinook, WLP007, and C150 ( I also throw in some carapils...8oz..this has a rock solid head and beautiful lace). Will let you know how it comes out. The one I am drinking now had about 25% more Chinook and I think it is still a little shy on the hop side. Probably will bump this to 1/2 lb or a little more...all in the boil and whirlpool. I do not dry hop this at all.

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Any updates?

I do not think this recipe is Special B alone. It may be close, but there's a missing Crystal flavor in the commercial sample.
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Update? Not much. I did bottle the gallon I set aside and fermented with WLP002, vice WLP007. So they need another 3ish weeks to carb up. The other 10 gallons are in kegs conditioning. According to my normal schedule, they should be ready to carb up around the end of April. It definitely had a different aroma so once it is ready I will snag a few bottles at the bottle shop, grab a fellow homebrewer or two, and do a blind taste test. Might try the ol' triangle test, just for grins. Should be interesting. I will report back once I get around to doing this. I have a heavy travel schedule, so I need to fit this in to that...

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