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Old 04-26-2012, 02:07 AM   #501
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What about a Double Bastard? Has anyone gotten close to clone the DB?

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Old 04-26-2012, 02:39 AM   #502
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What about a Double Bastard? Has anyone gotten close to clone the DB?
Haven't done it, they say it is close but different. I do have a recipe don't remember where i got it from. if you want it, its yours.


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Old 04-26-2012, 04:29 AM   #503
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Sure, I'm interested. Double Bastard is awesome in itself. I was lucky enough to have some @ the Stone Brewery during our Spring break trip this year.

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Old 05-01-2012, 07:17 PM   #504
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Any news on the Double Bastard?

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Old 05-01-2012, 08:35 PM   #505
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Any news on the Double Bastard?
Oops sorry mate, forgot about it!

Ok, here is what I got for ya:

Double Bastard I:

82% 2 ROW
11% C-120
5 % CARAPILS
2 % CHOCOLATE MALT

CHINOOK 90 MIN
CHINOOK 60 MIN
CHINOOK 30 MIN
CHINOOK 15 MIN
CHINOOK F/O
CHINOOK D/H 7 DAYS.
OAK CHIPS D/H 7 DAYS.
You can use US-05 to take this beast down a notch but if you do, make sure to mash high, like 154-156.

Double Bastard II:

2 ROW 83%
SPECIAL B 7.5%
CARAVIENNE 5%
BISCUIT 4.5%

CHINOOK (AS ABOVE)
OAK CHIPS AS ABOVE
YEAST AS ABOVE.
MASH AS ABOVE.

Quite honestly, I would make a double bastard by adding some Carafa Special III to a solid A.B. clone and then increase the IBUs to over 110. I would prob mash lower, like 150 but use S-04 but then again I havent done it so its just an idea.

Happy Brewing, good luck to ya and let me know if this helped.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:51 PM   #506
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After following this thread for a while, and listening to as many different things about AB as possible I came up with this recipe. I brewed it about a month and a half ago and just tasted it today for the first time after 3 week primary and 3 weeks in the bottle. I have to brag a little and say that it is extremely close to the original and the biggest difference was that my version tasted fresher in terms of hop character, which makes sense. I know I broke from the trend of 90%/10%, but with all the information I remember taking in about this, one of the Stone brewers said in an interview that he believed the best way for a homebrewer to clone AB would be a combination of a few different malts and at least 2 hops.

In all reality, it is very possible that Stone goes with the 90/10 mold and comes out with what we know is AB, but in order for us homebrewers to replicate AB, we might have to do something slightly different to end up with the same result.

The color was spot on. The malt character in my opinion was identical. The biggest difference was the fresher hop character.

5 gallon batch.
13.75 lbs 2 Row
.12 lbs Chocolate Malt
.62 lbs Crystal 150L
.62 lbs Special B
Mash at 150 to help dry it out a little.

1.88 oz Chinook @60 min
1.25 oz Chinook @15min
1.25 oz Centennial @15 min
.62 oz Chinook @1 min

WLP 007 for 3 week primary

OG- 1.081
FG- 1.019
ABV- 8.1%
IBU- 100
Color- 22 degrees L

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Old 06-03-2012, 03:42 PM   #507
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I brewed this yesterday, following the rebrew #2 recipe. I hit OG exaclty at 1.066. My Chinook's were 11.4 to I used the full ounce instead of a partial ounce. It is hoppy and tastes great already.

It is happily chilling right now @ 69 with a slurry of WLP007.

Has anyone oaked their Arrogant Bastard? If so, share your process.

What is the typical fermentation time for this?

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Old 06-17-2012, 04:15 PM   #508
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My first attempt at this turned out really well and everyone who tried it loved it. Not sure if it was the same taste as AB, but to tell you the truth I have had AB many times and it really varies in taste with age and delivery method. When I was at the Stone brewery a couple of times, I had it at the bar and got a growler. You would think they would be the exact same but the growler was noticeably sweeter and the bar was much hoppier...and that was AT STONE! And believe me, it did not sit in the growler long. Probably no more than 2 hours before I opened that up for a glass or two...Anyhow, I have bought bottles of it as well that were either maltier or hoppier so cloning this is a moving target. All I care about is getting something close to this delicious beverage and I have with my first attempt. Deltas from the tasty brew were I used Northern Brewer (1 oz @ 90, 1 oz @60) and Columbus (1 oz at 30 and another at 10) and I used C120 at about 7%. It was a fabulous beer and I am down to a few glasses in the keg and two growlers left. Sooooo, I am brewing it again today, mashing out as I type. Today's attempt changes both the malt and the hops a bit. I went with all Columbus as I like it better than Chinook or NB, and I changed my malt lineup to about 6.5% Special B and 3.5% British Crystal 135/165L. I'll let you know how it turns out in 6 weeks, but I am sure it is going to be good!! Cheers!

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I'm struggling my way through all 51 pages and can't seem to disseminate a 'final' recipe #2. Anyone have it with grains in total # for a 6.5 gallon batch?

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Old 06-29-2012, 11:51 PM   #510
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Here's mine.

It is damned tasty!

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BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Arrogant Bastard CYBI # 2 6G
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.25 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.24 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 6.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.066 SG
Estimated Color: 22.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 101.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 72.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
13 lbs 13.8 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 90.0 %
1 lbs 8.7 oz Special B Malt (180.0 SRM) Grain 2 10.0 %
0.83 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 85.0 min Hop 3 43.3 IBUs
0.83 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 4 38.9 IBUs
0.83 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 5 11.6 IBUs
0.83 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 6 7.2 IBUs
1.0 pkg Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007) [35 Yeast 7 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 15 lbs 6.5 oz

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