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02-07-2012, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammy71
The only way I can explain it ...lacking bitterness that wasn't hops. That's why I'm intrigued by the roasted barley.
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I just cracked one of these as I write. There is dryness on the back of the toungue and hop bitterness in front. I don't taste roased barley, not saying it isn't there. The Chinook harshness is really in the after bitterness. Everytime I drink one of these I remember how good it is. Did you brew the C-150 Bastard? Someone will stumble onto the recipe!
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02-07-2012, 11:34 PM
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Never mind I read Hammy's tasting notes a few pages back on the 150L. Now I don't know what to do. 
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02-08-2012, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Dog House Brew
Never mind I read Hammy's tasting notes a few pages back on the 150L. Now I don't know what to do. 
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Go with the gut, make the C-150. I support.-
Worse case, you end up with an awesome, yet not so Bastardly, brew. That cant be that bad now, can it?
I am surely making a small batch of bastards, one with C-150 surely.
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02-08-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CastleBlack
Go with the gut, make the C-150. I support.-
Worse case, you end up with an awesome, yet not so Bastardly, brew. That cant be that bad now, can it?
I am surely making a small batch of bastards, one with C-150 surely.
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Oh, I'm not saying the 150 was horrible or undrinkable. Just not AB to me.
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02-08-2012, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammy71
Oh, I'm not saying the 150 was horrible or undrinkable. Just not AB to me.
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Could the freshness have anything to do with it you think?
This is a relatively big brew, at 7.2 - 7.5 ABV it takes some time to condition. Plus the store bought AB will never be as fresh as homebrew. Could our brews, even with C-150 just be too green?
My first bastard clone was bottled on 1/9/12 and I have been having a bottle a week to taste test it. I can tell you it is still green even for a brew with so much hoppyness.
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02-08-2012, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CastleBlack
Could the freshness have anything to do with it you think?
This is a relatively big brew, at 7.2 - 7.5 ABV it takes some time to condition. Plus the store bought AB will never be as fresh as homebrew. Could our brews, even with C-150 just be too green?
My first bastard clone was bottled on 1/9/12 and I have been having a bottle a week to taste test it. I can tell you it is still green even for a brew with so much hoppyness.
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When you say green, what specifically are you talking about? I assume you're not talking about acetaldehyde (green apple flavor). Is the beer not clear? Is it fruity in some other sense? Are there fusel alcohols?
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02-08-2012, 09:35 PM
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he means it's too young and still needs to be further conditioned.
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02-08-2012, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by barrooze
he means it's too young and still needs to be further conditioned.
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I realize that much. However, usually you condition something to remove some kind of off flavor (as with lagering).
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02-08-2012, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by afr0byte
When you say green, what specifically are you talking about? I assume you're not talking about acetaldehyde (green apple flavor). Is the beer not clear? Is it fruity in some other sense? Are there fusel alcohols?
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No mate, I do not ferment high when I am making pale ales and IPAs, so hopefully I do not have any fusels in there. (As as side note, I have only had chlorophenols from bad H2O and trust me you can spot that as soon as the bottle opens. Still drank that crap, cant waste a brew).
When I say green brew I mean brew that it simply not at its peak condition just yet. I get this a whole lot with higher gravity ales, even DIPAs despite the overly hoppyness. Give it time and taste one every week or so, you ll see a big difference from one week to the next.
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02-08-2012, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CastleBlack
No mate, I do not ferment high when I am making pale ales and IPAs, so hopefully I do not have any fusels in there. (As as side note, I have only had chlorophenols from bad H2O and trust me you can spot that as soon as the bottle opens. Still drank that crap, cant waste a brew).
When I say green brew I mean brew that it simply not at its peak condition just yet. I get this a whole lot with higher gravity ales, even DIPAs despite the overly hoppyness. Give it time and taste one every week or so, you ll see a big difference from one week to the next.
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Again, I know what people mean by conditioning. I understand that bigger beers change (usually improve) with time. However, there's normally a reason they improve. What flavor aspect do you expect to change that will make the beer taste closer to AB?
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