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Old 04-29-2010, 02:49 PM   #1
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Default Can You Brew It recipe for Oskar Blue's Gordon

All recipes are 6 gallons post-boil (6 gallons post boil > 5.5 gallons in the fermenter > 5 gallons in bottling bucket/keg), 70% efficiency (though this particular recipe is for 65% efficiency), Morey for color, 15% evaporation, Rager IBU, and most hops are in grams not ounces. Most, if not all recipes are primary only (no secondary).

If you brew this, please reply with your results.

Note: the staff originally did not agree that this was cloned. They changed their opinion later due to the clone having a "fresher" taste that could be attributed to the aging of the commercial beer. Some did believe that the homebrew version was "bigger."

The italicized text below is from Nathan Smith's forum post on TBN forum.

Can I brew it? Split decision! Tasty and I say cloned, Justin and Jamil say not cloned (but close!). Dave Chichura will have to help us decide, but either way a re-brew will happen. So, for Dave from Houston Texas and all the other listeners that sent us this challenge, here's the recipe thus far:

Oskar Blues Gordon CYBI - 5 gallons

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 17.51
Anticipated OG: 1.081 Plato: 19.65
Anticipated SRM: 16
Anticipated IBU: 69.8
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Formulas Used
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Color Formula Used: Morey
Hop IBU Formula Used: Rager

Additional Utilization Used For Plug Hops: 2 %
Additional Utilization Used For Pellet Hops: 10 %

All Grain
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% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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80.0 14.00 lbs./6.35kg Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
8.0 1.40 lbs./.63kg Crystal 45L America 1.034 45
6.0 1.05 lbs./.47kg Munich Malt Germany 1.037 8
6.0 1.05 lbs./.47kg Carastan 30/37 Great Britian 1.034 30
- 2.5 grams Chocolate Malt America 1.029 250

Extract option
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% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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80.0 9.52 lbs. Pale LME America 1.036 2
8.0 .90 lbs. Crystal 45L America 1.034 45
6.0 .70 lbs. Munich LME America 1.037 8
6.0 .70 Carastan 30/37 Great Britian 1.034 30
- 2.5 grams Chocolate Malt America 1.029 250

Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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0.75 oz./21g Northern Brewer Pellet 8.50 28.9 80 min.
4.00 oz./113g Columbus Pellet 12.00 40.9 10 min.
2.15 oz./61g Amarillo Pellet 7.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Yeast
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WYeast 1056 Amercan Ale/Chico

Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step
Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30
Saccharification Rest Temp : 152F Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 165F Time: 30

Water Profile
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http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/files/Utilities/Water%20Quality/water_factsheet_4.pdf
Very even sulfate to chloride ratios. Approximately 6ppm each.
Approximately 50ppm calcium.

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Re-brew potential improvements:
Lower % of chocolate malt slightly for a total SRM of 14
Lower bittering IBU by about 5-7 for a total IBU of about 62
Big pitch of yeast, Keep fermentation temp no higher than 65F

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Old 04-29-2010, 02:57 PM   #2
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I brewed this one several weeks ago and have it on tap now. Overshot the OG a little bit, so it's about 10%abv ... Got really good mash efficiency considering how high the target OG was. I think I got 72% efficiency where the recipe was for 65%.

There's a thread here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f36/brewed-oskar-blues-gordon-clone-today-149607/

I really like the recipe and will brew it again. It turned out a tiny bit sweeter than the real thing, and had a little less hops aroma.

I put the recipe into Brew Builder on brewmasterswarehouse.com

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I think I got 72% efficiency where the recipe was for 65%.
Thanks, I edited for that.

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Old 04-29-2010, 04:10 PM   #4
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I just helped someone put together an extract version of this from the show. Here is what I changed it to. I am a fan of DME whenever possible. Make sure to use late additions.

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Recipe: Gordon clone (extract)
Style: Imperial IPA


Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.38 gal
Estimated OG: 1.080 SG
Estimated Color: 14.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4 lbs DME Dark Traditional (Briess) (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 36.83 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz DME Golden Light (Briess) (4.0 SRM) Dry Extract 32.23 %
11.2 oz Munich Liquid Extract [Boil for 15 min] Extract 6.45 %
14.4 oz Crystal Light - 45L (Crisp) (45.0 SRM) Grain 8.29 %
11.2 oz CaraMalt - 30/37L (Simpsom) (34.0 SRM) Grain 6.45 %
1.0 oz Pale Chocolate Malt (Thomas Fawcett) (200.Grain 0.55 %
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.70 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (80 min) Hops 18.1 IBU
3.40 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (10 min) Hops 49.9 IBU

1 Pkgs Safale US-05 Ale Yeast (Fermentis #US-05Yeast-Ale
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:14 AM   #5
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first time finding this thread.

I finally just got around to brewing this. I formulated the recipe as the specs where given on he show from notes i took. Will do a side by side comparison in a few weeks.

i am going to for go the dry hopping though and will be Randall'ing it through the Amarillo's.

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I have tried this beer, and it is wonderful, I can't wait for more reviews. I think this is going to be brewed really soon.

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Brewed this about 2 months ago and it's starting to come together nicely. Anyone else have tasting notes on this?

I need to do a side-by-side (first I need to find a fresh can of Gordon).

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One thing I noticed about it was that the hops bitterness dropped out relatively quickly, leaving it a bit too malty for my tastes. Probably would have mellowed a bit (the sweetness, I mean) over time, but it was gone before it had a chance.

If I was going to brew this again (and I probably will), I'll probably dial up the bittering hops a bit. And drink it quicker before they have time to drop out.

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Just dry hopped my slightly tweaked version of this recipe tonight. The sample was just what I'd hoped it would be...very close to cloned IMO.

I upped the 60 minute add and added an additional ounce of dry hops. I'll post some tasting notes.

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I just helped someone put together an extract version of this from the show. Here is what I changed it to. I am a fan of DME whenever possible. Make sure to use late additions.



No results, just a slightly different option for those who prefer DME.

Kabouter, thanks for doing this because this is one of my favorite brews and am excited to try and reproduce it. I understand the ingredients in your recipe but I'm so used to having a recipe sheet to go by with the kits I've brewed.

My question is how do I translate your dme recipe on brewday? Sorry I'm still a newbie!
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