EricCSU

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That would be a good question for Northern Brewer.

Eric

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chezzesteak

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Originally Posted by Marlowefire
Why doesn't the sponsor,northern brewer, package the ones that are considered to be cloned in convenient kits?


Copyright maybe?????

barrooze

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Probably the same reason they were forced to rename their Three Hearted Ale.

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Marlowefire

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Makes sense. But since these are
From companies that are willing to share their recipe copyright wouldn't really apply. It would save brewers from buying a pound of a grain if the CYBI recipe only calls for .5 lbs.

Just seems like something they could do to showcase the beers. Maybe even charge a little extra and give it to the brewers. There's a business solution here somewhere that makes it easier but maybe a few bucks more expensive for the homebrewer and profitable for NB and the craftbrewers.

chuckjaxfl

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Maybe they figure that those of us that are "into it" enough to listen to the podcasts and want to clone these beers will want to brew a little more precisely than a kit allows? By the time you take their recipe, adjust it for my really inefficient system w/ lots of dead space, or your awesome 90% system, there might be a difference of several pounds of grain?

EricCSU

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gtlaw10

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recipes are not copyrightable on their own. the ingredients can't be protected, nor can the amount of those ingredients.
however, they can copyright their process - so i suppose if the ingredients don't properly clone the beer without going through the proper process NB likely doesn't want to package a clone that without the specific process instructions doesn't truly clone the beer.
NB had to change the name because it was a a registered mark aka a trademark - you can trademark just about anything these days.

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WortMonger

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Recipes are not copyrightable, but groups of them are. At least That is what I was just told with my offerings of the first recipes in Brewing Classic Styles for BeerSmith and in .xml forms. Funny thing is, they were interpretations since the exact amounts of ingredients didn't add up to the what the numbers the program gave me said... so they were adjusted. Somehow this is still copyright infringement. Check it out.

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ChickenArise

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I don't think that he's exactly right, but my limited knowledge of copyrights (IANAL, but I worked around IP law for a few years) would indicate that he still gets some protection for a recipe-as-written. More importantly, I'm sure that you want to be on the up-and-up anyhow, so better safe than sorry.

What was at issue with NB getting some legal attention was an issue of trademark (not copyright), and it's understandable that some/many breweries are wary of letting their mark get either diluted or used by someone else who is using it to make a sale.

Besides, when it comes to clones, half of the fun is seeing what you can do with the ingredients available to you. It's a great learning tool to compare your brew against a commercial version.