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Old 12-02-2005, 06:10 PM   #1
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Hello All,

Got a question about buying in bulk to lower the cost per batch.

Are there certain grains, hops, DME or other things that you will purchase in bulk (say 1 lb instead of 2 ounces at a time) to lower the cost?

Are there any "base" ingredients that you use in alot/most of your batches that you purchase this way? Light DME or Cascade Hop Pellets for examples.

Thanks in advance.

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:21 PM   #2
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where i buy, austin homebrew supply, averythings pro-rated, so you get the same relative cost no matter how much grain/extract you buy. if you buy hops in bulk, then make sure they can be stored for a while. i do buy extra light dme in large quantity to make starters with though. i know some people that will buy 50 lb. bags of 2-row from the brewery here, which will sell it to you at cost. i dont have anywhere to put that much grain though.

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Are there certain grains, hops, DME or other things that you will purchase in bulk (say 1 lb instead of 2 ounces at a time) to lower the cost?
For whole hops, you can order from Hops Direct in quantities of 1 lb. or greater. They're about $7.50 a pound.
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If you do DME then I would recommend lots of Extra-light. It's a good base for almost EVERYTHING.

I buy mine in 55 lb boxes from Midwestsupplies.com. I get 2 boxes sometimes and the price comes down to under $2.50/lb vs the $4.00+ from the local HBS.

I also buy my hops by the pound. I weigh (digital scale) and seperate it into 1.1 oz packages. Anything not 1.1 goes into a .55 bag. I have a seal-a-meal vacuum/sealer machine that's great to have.

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:57 PM   #5
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I also buy my hops by the pound. I weigh (digital scale) and seperate it into 1.1 oz packages. Anything not 1.1 goes into a .55 bag. I have a seal-a-meal vacuum/sealer machine that's great to have.
That's a good idea...no idea why my brain can't function like that. I've been leaving them in their original bag, but this method would cut down a lot on exposure to oxygen even though I don't have a seal-a-meal.
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The seal-a-meal thing was a present so I didn't buy it for the hops...just lucked into it.

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Old 12-02-2005, 07:02 PM   #7
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If I can figure out which products to purchase in bulk it's looking like I'm going to save close to 50%.

How's this list:

Hop (Pellets) - Kent Goldings (1 lb)
Hop (Pellets) - Cascade (1 lb)
Hop (Pellets) - Chinook (1 lb)
Hop Pellets - Fuggles (1 lb)
Hop (Pellets) - Hallertauer (1 lb)
Hop (Pellets) - Mt Hood (1 lb)
Hop (Pellets) - Tettnanger (1 lb)
DME - Light (Powder) 44 lb Box
Malt - Chocolate (5 lb)
Malt - Black Roasted Barley (5 lb)
Malt - Black Patent (5 lb)
Malt - Munich (5 lb)
Malt - Crystal 40L (5 lb)
Malt - Crystal 60L (5 lb)

Anything I should change/add?

The grains won't be cracked yet, how should I store them? It's probably gonna take me 6 to 9 months to use them up.

I do have a vacuum sealer, so I will split up the hops into 1 oz packages and seal them.

Can I seal the DME into 3 lb packages?

How about the grains?

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My Mom has an ancient seal-a-meal I could probably steal, but it's not a vacuum. Still, might cut down on some oxygen permeation. I've been meaning to steal her meat slicer and deep freeze for a while, maybe I can round up everything in one go.

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The grains won't be cracked yet, how should I store them? It's probably gonna take me 6 to 9 months to use them up.

Can I seal the DME into 3 lb packages?

How about the grains?
Buying grains in 5lb increments won't save you a lot over buying them a lb at a time, but it might be nice having them on hand. Cool, dry, and airtight is how I would store them. Same with the DME. Especially with the DME which will have a strong tendency to try to absorb moisture from the air.
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That's a long list. Are you planning on buying any yeast?

Be sure to include a couple dry packets for under a buck just in case.

My DME is double bagged and I have NEVER had a problem with clumping, etc. You need to close the bags up when you are done using the contents.

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