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Old 05-20-2009, 06:10 PM   #21
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I have no problem posting my score. I received a 40.5 It did not place. The top score was a 42.5 and the first 3 finishers were all Cont. Pils. The comments were great. It rated top marks in stylistic accuracy, intangibles, and was one box down in technical merit (same from both judges). One judge suggested more hop bitterness for the style, the other picked up slight DMS.

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Old 05-20-2009, 06:10 PM   #22
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Yeah Cat- I didn't want a pissin match! I stepped up for you, and you made a point about the exactness of the style.

The really great thing about brewing is we can all do our own thing! This is how many styles were created!

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I just tapped into my CAP (Lindy Hop) and am loving it. I did use Cluster for an aroma hop, but was definitely not BJCP in using Cascade for flavor (homegrown by my friend Linda) and Sorachi Ace for bittering. I'm totally loving SA for lagers, it just seems a little extra refreshing. I use SA hops for bittering in all my various light lagers, including the one that just took 1st in the Northeast region for light lager - and it's score was less than brewpastors CAP (by several points).

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Old 05-20-2009, 06:19 PM   #24
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I have never used Sorachi Ace hops and know nothing about them. What are they like?

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Old 05-20-2009, 06:20 PM   #25
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I have never used Sorachi Ace hops and know nothing about them. What are they like?
The descriptor I see again and again is super lemony. Might need to pick up a couple ounces myself to experiment.
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Old 05-20-2009, 06:37 PM   #26
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Lemony. That is a nice one to know about. I could see that in a light lager, a Mexican Clara. Niko, order up some SAs!

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For bittering I find them extremely smooth, with a touch of that something extra refereshing. I don't really notice any lemon with a 60 min or FWH, but that could be the subtle something extra. Oh yeah, I usually FWH with them. Last year I used them in a light lager (OG 1.040) as a 5 min addition and that one was noticibly lemony. I'd have to check my notes, but this was probably with just 1/4 oz. I don't like to use much aroma hops in my lagers. What was odd with this beer (all Ger 2-row) is the lemon got stronger as the beer aged - to the point when I entered it in a contest I was worried they'd think I added fruit to it. I can double check my notes if you are interested.

I just brewed an American wheat (I'm shooting for a Kristal on this one) and I used SA at 15 and 5 min. I'm looking for some really fruity flavors in this beer (without adding fruit) so I also used Pacific Gem for bittering (FWH) and also at 15 min. I've used PA Gem in a wheat before at 15 min. and got a tremendous berry aroma. The smell coming out of the fermentor was incredibly fruity.

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Old 05-20-2009, 07:05 PM   #28
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I am all inspired now. The recipe wheels are churning! Lemons, berries, this will be fun!

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Post what you come up with for the Sorachi Ace hops. I've got about 4 ounces stashed in the freezer that I'm wondering what to do with.

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I have never used Sorachi Ace hops and know nothing about them. What are they like?
Yeah, they are lemony! I used them once, for this recipe and I wasn't exactly crazy about them. I don't think it was a good match for my IPA and I'll sub Summit next time I brew it. Just too much lemon/citrus bitterness for my tastes.

And I've got ~7 oz. in my hop freezer that I have no idea what to do with.

And to chime in, it probably isn't a "true to style" CAP, but it looks interesting and pretty tasty for warm weather drinking. Besides, Jamil pretty much wrote the latest BJCP guildelines himself, so it is really one man's opinion. A man who carries a lot of weight, sure. But still, just one man. Okay, maybe him and a couple other guys, but you get my drift...
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