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Old 11-24-2009, 06:57 PM   #1
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So winter is here and I figure I should brew up a nice stout. I was thinking something along the lines of this: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f68/o-fl...tandard-41072/

I have plenty of grain on hand, but no roasted barley. There is no local place to buy it, and shipping would be killer for only a little roast barley.

I do have some alternatives. I have base grains, crystal malts, other specialty grain and the following:
Weyermann CARAFA SPECIAL 1 (Dark Chocolate)
Weyermann CARAFA SPECIAL III (Black Malt)

From what I've read, these will not give me what I'm looking for in a stout. The black malt will give more of a charcoal flavour than the coffee flavour I'm looking for. The chocolate malt seems like it wouldn't be roasty enough.

Does anybody have any experience brewing a stout without roasted barley? Is it worth it, or should I suck it up and brew something else until I can find some roasted barley?

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Old 11-24-2009, 07:18 PM   #2
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Blasphemy.

How about a Robust Porter?

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Old 11-24-2009, 07:21 PM   #3
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As far as I'm concerned, it's not a stout if it doesn't have roasted. However, that's the great thing about brewing: brew what you like! Hardly any beer I make (with the exception of most of my porters, for some reason) is within guidelines.

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Old 11-24-2009, 07:25 PM   #4
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I guess if you had some unmalted barley you could try roasting it yourself.

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Chocolate malt, in large amounts (1.5-2 lbs), does impart a pretty significant roasted flavor. I have a chocolate porter with 1.75 lbs chocolate malt that is easily as roasty as a stout.

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I don't have any unmalted barley, so roasting my own is out.

I think I'll just have to brew other styles until I can get my hands on some roasted barley.

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Why not just make a heavy porter with a lot of the chocolate malt? If you add enough, I don't think you'll miss the roasted barley.

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According to Graham Wheeler's Brew Your Own British Real Ale, the Burton Bridge Top Dog Stout uses a bunch of chocolate malt and no roasted barley.

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Old 11-25-2009, 01:22 AM   #10
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well you guys may have changed my mind. I'll look through the recipes and we'll see what comes to mind for the next brew day.

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