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Old 06-02-2010, 12:51 AM   #11
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Rogue's Dead Guy Ale is a Maibock style brewed with their Pacman ale yeast (Wyeast 1764). Just ferment between 60-65 deg F and when fermentation is almost complete, raise the temperature up to about 70 deg F.

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Old 06-02-2010, 01:28 AM   #12
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Does dead guy ale tastes anything like a bock to you? Not to me.

use a big starter of wyeast 1007 German Ale you'll be much closer... and shell out the bucks for imported german base malt unless you're looking to make a dead guy clone.

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Old 06-02-2010, 01:41 AM   #13
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Does dead guy ale tastes anything like a bock to you? Not to me.

use a big starter of wyeast 1007 German Ale you'll be much closer... and shell out the bucks for imported german base malt unless you're looking to make a dead guy clone.
It kinda does, like an American version of a Maibock. It's quite heavy on the Saaz flavor hops. A lot of making a beer taste German is the use of the noble hops.
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What is it about the ale yeast activity at the lower temperatures that imitates the taste of a bottom fermenting lager yeast? Should I be looking for the yeast to contribute little to no taste?

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What is it about the ale yeast activity at the lower temperatures that imitates the taste of a bottom fermenting lager yeast? Should I be looking for the yeast to contribute little to no taste?
right, lager yeasts are super clean and dry, but some also have a slight sulphur note. Just keep the ale yeast as neutral as possible (with the right strain and low temperature) and you'll be close enough to a lager yeast for the purposes of your bock.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:13 PM   #16
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What is it about the ale yeast activity at the lower temperatures that imitates the taste of a bottom fermenting lager yeast? Should I be looking for the yeast to contribute little to no taste?
The lower the fermentation temperature, the fewer esters generated during fermentation. Hence, cleaner tasting beer with less yeast byproducts. However, you don't want to get the ale yeast so cold that your fermentation gets stuck. You generally want to run your fermentation cold with a clean American ale type yeast (Safale-05, Wyeast 1056, WLP001) at the bottom end of the fermentation range. Then ramp it up to the top end of the range as fermentation is finishing to dry it out.
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