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Old 02-04-2010, 12:53 AM   #1
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I thought all wheat beers where cloudy? How is Long Trails Blackberry Wheat crystal clear?

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Old 02-04-2010, 03:19 PM   #2
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Maybe it settled out in the bottle. I usually give the bottle a swirl partway through pouring. Or maybe it is filtered, the web site doesnt say.

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Crystal Wheat's are clear.

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Hefeweizen is the only wheat beer required to be cloudy. Even then, there are versions called "Crystal Weizen" that are clear. American wheats may or may not be cloudy. I'm guessing this is an American wheat.

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Thanks it probably is an american wheat. I was just confused after reading about wheat beers on here. Thanks

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I'm looking to brew my next batch as a Blackberry Hefeweizen but I sure as **** don't want it to be clear. Any recommendation for a good Hefeweizen All Grain recipe?

I'll add the blackberries in my secondary. How much should I add to the secondary and should I boil the blackberries first to make sure there isn't any bugs and stuff like that still on them?

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I'm looking to brew my next batch as a Blackberry Hefeweizen but I sure as **** don't want it to be clear. Any recommendation for a good Hefeweizen All Grain recipe?

I'll add the blackberries in my secondary. How much should I add to the secondary and should I boil the blackberries first to make sure there isn't any bugs and stuff like that still on them?
Here is a slightly modified Widmer Hefe Clone I found somewhere. In a few days I will try this recipe again. I have made it twice and had problems both times previously. Bad thermo once and bad stuck sparge the second time. Hopefully third time lucky. Both batches were not bad at all, just not quite right with the problems I had. This will be my first attempt at water conditioning as well I know that will help. This time I plan to make half with blueberry extract. Seems like people have problems with flavors coming through with real fruit? I want to start simple for my first attempt with adding fruit flavor.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Widmer Clone
Brewer: Leon
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Wheat or Rye Beer
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 10.00 gal
Boil Size: 12.55 gal
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 5.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 22.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.60 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 3.30 %
9.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 49.73 %
7.00 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 38.68 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 5.53 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2.76 %
0.25 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 8.4 IBU
0.25 oz Millennium [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 6.7 IBU
0.10 oz Horizon [12.00 %] (60 min) Hops 2.7 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (7 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (7 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
2.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 gm Epsom Salt (MgSO4) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 ml Lactic Acid (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
2.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
3.00 gm Calcium Chloride (Boil 60.0 min) Misc
5.00 gm Salt (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
7.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Hefeweizen Ale (White Labs #WLP32Yeast-Wheat


Mash Schedule: NIGHTMARE MASH Single Infusion No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 18.10 lb
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NIGHTMARE MASH Single Infusion No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 6.11 gal of water at 168.1 F 154.0 F


Notes:
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BITTERING ALCHEMY BLEND 45% WARRIOR, 45% MILLENIUM, 10%HORIZON
AROMA WILLAMETTE, CASCADE
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I'm looking to brew my next batch as a Blackberry Hefeweizen but I sure as **** don't want it to be clear. Any recommendation for a good Hefeweizen All Grain recipe?

I'll add the blackberries in my secondary. How much should I add to the secondary and should I boil the blackberries first to make sure there isn't any bugs and stuff like that still on them?
Easy -

OG: 1.050
IBU: ~10-15


5lbs continental pilsner malt
5lbs wheat malt

a handfull of rice hulls will help lautering. Wheat malt can get very sticky in a mash.

1 oz Hallertauer @ 60 min (or any other low alpha noble hop)

Mash at 152F for 60 min

I typically decoct up to 165F for a mashout. This gives the beer a more classic taste without having to do a full triple decoction.

Pitch a Hefeweizen yeast like Wyeast 3068.

Using wheat in 50% + in a recipe will help keep the beer cloudy, as will a low flocculating Hefeweizen strain. Also, avoid a protein rest. This will degrade haze forming proteins which are high in wheat malt. Choose a good Continental pils malt, like Durst or Weyermann. I also like a quality wheat malt like Weyermann pale wheat. Keep your IBUs low. People talk about stressing Hefe yeast, but make sure you pitch enough so it attenuates properly. FG needs to be in the 1.010 to 1.014 range.

I like to follow the "30" rule of heweizens. Your pitching temp + fermentation temp should add up to 30C. I opt to pitch around 13C and ferment at 17C. This is a lot cooler than most recipes you will see, but IMO it really controls the esters and makes for a great tasting beer.
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