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HellBentBrewCo 09-17-2010 10:18 PM

Black IPA - critique
 
Original Gravity 1.074
Final Gravity 1.019

Color
42 SRM / 83 EBC
(Black)
Mash Efficiency
75%
IBU 80.3


% LB OZ Malt or Fermentable ppg L
63% 10 0 Rahr Two-Row info 34 4
19% 3 0 Vienna Malt info 36 3
9% 1 8 Dehusked Carafa II info 28 425
6% 1 0 Cara-Pils/Dextrine info 33 2
3% 0 8 Briess Caramel 60L info 34 60

boil 60 mins 1.0 Chinook info pellet 13.0
boil 45 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
boil 30 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
boil 15 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
post-boil 1 min 1.0 Amarillo info pellet 7.0
dry hop 7 days 1.0 Amarillo info pellet 7.0

Wyeast American Ale II (1272)


Alcohol 7.3% ABV / 6% ABW
Calories 244 per 12 oz.

jgourd 09-17-2010 10:32 PM

Sounds yummy. I made mine with 2-row pale, debittered black (like dehusked carafa), and crystal 90. Next time, I'll add carapils. But the black should help with head retention. 80 IBUs is nice. I was near that. I think you will have a tasty brew!

cheezydemon3 09-17-2010 10:34 PM

I thought de-bittered black too, but looks good!

michael.berta 09-20-2010 06:01 AM

I'm not really sure the point of the 45 minute and 30 minute addition. I'd move those later in the boil to match up with the later addition. I'd also double if not triple flameout and dry hop.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellBentBrewCo (Post 2283323)
Original Gravity 1.074
Final Gravity 1.019

Color
42 SRM / 83 EBC
(Black)
Mash Efficiency
75%
IBU 80.3


% LB OZ Malt or Fermentable ppg L
63% 10 0 Rahr Two-Row info 34 4
19% 3 0 Vienna Malt info 36 3
9% 1 8 Dehusked Carafa II info 28 425
6% 1 0 Cara-Pils/Dextrine info 33 2
3% 0 8 Briess Caramel 60L info 34 60

boil 60 mins 1.0 Chinook info pellet 13.0
boil 45 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
boil 30 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
boil 15 mins 1.0 Cascade info pellet 5.5
post-boil 1 min 1.0 Amarillo info pellet 7.0
dry hop 7 days 1.0 Amarillo info pellet 7.0

Wyeast American Ale II (1272)


Alcohol 7.3% ABV / 6% ABW
Calories 244 per 12 oz.


DrinkNoH2O 09-20-2010 05:22 PM

I'd ditch the Cara-Pils as you'll have plenty of head retention from the other malts. I'd also change the Carafa II for Carafa III Special.

The 45 and 30 minute additions aren't very useful. Drop them, make up the difference in IBUs with a larger 60 minute addition then beef up the late hops and dry hopping. I'd dry hop with a full 3oz.

ShortSnoutBrewing 09-20-2010 06:22 PM

Another vote for adjusting your hop schedule. Drop the 45/30 but I wouldn't adjust the 60. More late hop additions and totally up your dry hop to a minimum of 2 oz. I've been playing with my CDA and I'm creeping up towards 4ozs of dry hop.

Bartman 09-20-2010 11:54 PM

What are you using for a mash temp? Ive brewed 2 of these CDA's. The first time @ 152 and the second @ 150. I prefered the slightly sweeter higher temp.

Amount Item Type % or IBU
15.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 89.55 %
1.00 lb Carafa III (525.0 SRM) Grain 5.97 %
0.75 lb Caramel Malt - 60L (Briess) (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.48 %
2.50 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 80.6 IBU
2.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (Dry Hop 5 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Centennial [9.10 %] (5 min) Hops 9.0 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.70 %] (1 min) Hops 1.1 IBU
1.10 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs Safale US-05 Yeast-Ale

DrinkNoH2O 09-21-2010 10:02 PM

Here's the recipe I've been working with, tastes fantastic:


Original Gravity: 1.086 SG
Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Actual Alcohol by Vol: 8.65 %
Bitterness: 94.5 IBU
Est Color: 37.1 SRM

15 lbs 4.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row)
14.0 oz Carafa III
14.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L

Mash @ 152

1.75 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min)
1.00 oz Cascade [7.50 %] (30 min)
1.00 oz Cascade [7.50 %] (15 min)
1.00 oz Amarillo [7.50 %] (2 min)
1.00 oz Simcoe [12.20 %] (2 min)

1.50 oz Amarillo [7.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days)
1.50 oz Simcoe [12.20 %] (Dry Hop 7 days)

1 Pkgs Pacman (Rogue Brewery) [Starter] Yeast-Ale

mitch171 09-22-2010 12:07 AM

I would call it something other than Black India PALE Ale. Maybe American Black Ale?

Berock 09-22-2010 01:03 AM

Maybe Cascadian Midnight Ale? :)


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