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06-25-2009, 07:26 PM
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Better Than Piss Cerveza - Share your thoughts
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I really enjoy a fresh pico de gallo and wanted to try and infuse some flavors into a cerveza style beer. I'll more than likely be doing this in a small 2 gallon batch first (due to lagering limitations). Please let me know your thoughts on acceptable quantities of cilantro to add. Thanks in advance.
Recipe: Better Than Piss Cerveza
Brewer: Bass Brewer
Asst Brewer: Sexy Brew Wench
Style: Premium American Lager
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)
Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 5.72 gal
Estimated OG: 1.055 SG
Estimated Color: 3.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 24.9 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 100.00 %
0.25 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 8.8 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (45 min) Hops 16.1 IBU
5.00 gal Washington, DC Water
1 Pkgs Mexican Lager (White Labs #WLP940) Yeast-Lager
6 units Jalepeno Peppers
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body
Total Grain Weight: 10.00 lb
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Single Infusion, Light Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 12.50 qt of water at 161.4 F 150.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 8.00 qt of water at 200.2 F 168.0 F
Notes:
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Halve the peppers including seeds and add to boil similar to continuous hopping.
2 weeks prior to bottling add 3-4 peels of lime and let infuse with 1 cup vodka. Add cilantro to infusion at day 10.
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06-25-2009, 07:35 PM
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Personally I would go with a spicy hop like amarillo or chinook, centennial has a citrus dominant taste and smell.
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06-25-2009, 07:46 PM
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to be cerveza style, I'd probably add 10-15% (or even higher) of the grain bill being flaked corn. I've got a cerveza-kinda style cream ale in the fermenter right now, and that has 20% corn. I'd also really shy away from putting that jalapeno in there, as every beer that I've tried with jalapeno in there has been kinda bleh.
I'd say the cilantro is a good idea, but get a citrus-y hop instead of the lime zest, and then serve it with a jalapeno in it.
YMMV.
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06-25-2009, 08:17 PM
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In your opinion does that go for any pepper or just jalepeno, I've heard of some people using Serano peppers in their brews
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06-25-2009, 08:28 PM
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Cerveza beer is supposed to be Vienna Malt and Maize. Also, that beer is too big for a Cervaza, you should tone it down to like .040~.045
Well I would drink it anyway, looks good except for the pepper - yuk!
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06-25-2009, 08:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wscott823
In your opinion does that go for any pepper or just jalepeno, I've heard of some people using Serano peppers in their brews
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any pepper, lose it in the brew and if you really want it, throw one in the glass when you serve it.
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06-25-2009, 08:44 PM
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Any ideas on the quantity of cilantro? 2 oz, 6 oz, 1 lb???
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06-26-2009, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wscott823
Any ideas on the quantity of cilantro? 2 oz, 6 oz, 1 lb???
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I'd start small and add at flameout or just before........6 oz by weight may be good, maybe even a little too much. just a guess.
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06-26-2009, 12:51 AM
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I'm guessing a couple of bunches of cilantro would leave a strong flavor. Coriander is cilantro seed... the cilantro sounds killer.
Do the pepper for just a short time in secondary or something, pepper usually overwhelms a beer.
Poblano peppers have a very complex flavor and their heat shouldn't overwhelm a beer, just a thought.
I hope this turns out awesome, I'd like to try it!
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