Belgian Dubbel with T-58?

GregKelley · 08-01-2008, 05:38 PM

Has anyone tried making a Belgian Dubbel, or similar beer, with Fermentis Safbrew T-58 instead of one of the standard Belgian liquid yeasts?

The description of T-58 of spicey, peppery and esters makes me think that it would fit Belgians quite well.

brewt00l · 08-01-2008, 05:42 PM

I've used it for American style wheat beers....I can't really see anyone finding it very belgian-esque. I recall it being somewhat spicy/peppery but not really matching up with what you would expect from something like WLP500.

GregKelley · 08-01-2008, 06:40 PM

Faint is good because I don't want it to taste like a jalapeno!

brewt00l · 08-01-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GregKelley

Faint is good because I don't want it to taste like a jalapeno!

Personally, I would stick with the usual suspects...I just don't think that T58 has enough character to really pull off an impersonation of a belgian style yeast. YMMV. If you roll with it, let us know your results.

miatawnt2b · 08-02-2008, 12:50 PM

yep, I agree. T-58 actually makes a decent american wheat, but I wouldn't use it in a belgian.
-J

Piotr · 08-02-2008, 04:55 PM

Its S33 that is supposed to be suitable for belgial beers.
But IMO belgians thats the only style that really needs liquid yeast.

Parker36 · 08-02-2008, 04:57 PM

Belgians have the most unique yeast which is really the only link between all the different Belgian styles, don't mess with something that has been working for hundreds of years or you will end up with something completely different than what you are expecting.

brewt00l · 08-03-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Piotr

Its S33 that is supposed to be suitable for belgial beers.
But IMO belgians thats the only style that really needs liquid yeast.

I have no idea why they have that recommendation on their prod lit...S33 is typically listed as the Edme strain, an English ale yeast. I've used it plenty and there isn't anything Belgian in the flavor profile IMO.

**Spunkmeyer** · 08-03-2008, 01:36 PM

Austin Homebrew Supply lists T58 as their yeast recommendation in their "AHS Gold Seal Trappist Dubbel" kit. Mine is currently carbonating in the bottles and too green to pass judgement on yet, but AHS seems to like it.

Kai · 08-03-2008, 02:22 PM

Don't use dry yeast in a Belgian. It's really not worth the $5 savings. Get a good pedigreed strain of liquid Belgian yeast (there are scores of them out there, with huge differences between them). I like 3787. For a Dubbel, the Chimay strain might be good (1214). I'm trying 3522 next.