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Old 08-22-2014, 03:49 AM   #21
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Just thought I'd revisit this old thread and see if anyone tried brewing a black tea beer. Unfortunately, I haven't tried yet, but I'll try an experimental batch sometime soon. Still considering when to add the black tea for best results:
1) Post-boil before cooling - tea prefers straight water. Extraction could be poor, and fermentation may destroy flavors
2) Higher gravity partial boil with tea solution top-up in fermentor - good extraction, but fermentation may still destroy flavor
3) Post-fermentation tea solution top-up - gets around issues mentioned above
4) " dry hop" tea bags - infection risk. Not considering this really.

I might test to see if fermentation affects tea flavor... brew a 1L batch of strong tea, sweeten with sugar or DME, ferment and taste the results. If it turns out okay, option #2 might be the way to go then. Any thoughts, or better yet, results from your own trials greatly appreciated.

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Old 08-24-2014, 09:14 PM   #22
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Alright, so i went ahead with option #2 above. 1L of 1.050 wort, with DME and a dash of hops. I'll get one bottle out of this, and sample whats left at bottling time. If it turns out nasty, i'll try option #3 for kicks.

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Old 08-24-2014, 09:15 PM   #23
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Honestly, if I were going to do this I'd treat the tea like specialty grains in an extract recipe. Do a pre-boil steep (1.25 ounces of loose tea per five gallons of water) at 190 degrees F for however long you would normally steep a cup of tea and then proceed as normal. A muslin grain bag is probably advisable.

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Honestly, if I were going to do this I'd treat the tea like specialty grains in an extract recipe. Do a pre-boil steep (1.25 ounces of loose tea per five gallons of water) at 190 degrees F for however long you would normally steep a cup of tea and then proceed as normal. A muslin grain bag is probably advisable.
I might try that, but I've always understood you never boil tea. Granted, this rule assumes the leaves are in the water at the time, but I'm thinking same applies to the tea liquid. Could be wrong... it almost happened to me once in 1987 :P
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No, the reason you don't boil tea is that temps higher than 190 start to extract really harsh and bitter tannins from the leaves. Once the leaves are out, all you would be doing is concentrating the flavors. Of course, the rule of **** in, **** out applies here; if you're going to use Lipton's for this you might as well not bother.

BierMuncher's Black Pearl Porter is, I think, an ideal recipe to create a chai beer. I even advanced the idea with him and he thought it would be interesting.

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Great, have you tried this out yourself yet? Curious how the tea flavor comes through, particularly if you boiled it as described.

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Just noticed this thread. A couple years ago saw a local brewery that made a brew without hops that was dry hopped with black tea. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to it then but checking their website they still make it. http://gilgameshbrewing.com/beers.

Its called Mamba. Hope this helps.

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Great, have you tried this out yourself yet? Curious how the tea flavor comes through, particularly if you boiled it as described.
I haven't, just brew a Belgian strong today. I want to do a porter next, so it might as well be Black Pearl in the name of Science!
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