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Old 11-09-2012, 04:11 PM   #1
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Default BC style pale ale - Your thoughts and advise please

This is my current draft of a BC style pale ale that I am going to brew for my office Christmas party. Will be doing 2 5 gallons batches as I can't do a boil large enough to do 10 gallons. I am hoping to be able to ferment for 10 - 12 days and keg/force carb and chill for 5 days and then be able to serve. This will also be the first time kegging for me.

Recipe: BC Pale Ale
Style: Special/Best/Premium Bitter
TYPE: Partial Mash

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 18.93 L
Boil Size: 21.67 L
Estimated OG: 1.047 SG
Estimated Color: 9.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 26.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 56.9 %
2.00 lb Maris Otter (4.0 SRM) Grain 28.4 %
0.50 lb Carastan 35L (35.0 SRM) Grain 7.1 %
0.03 lb Pale Chocolate Malt (275.0 SRM) Grain 0.4 %
20.00 gm Northern Brewer (Canada) [9.00%] (60 min)Hops 23.8 IBU
7.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (20 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
2.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
0.50 lb Turbinado (10.0 SRM) Sugar 7.1 %
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 2.53 lb
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Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Saccharification Add 3.16 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 10 min 168.0 F 10 min


Notes:
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Malt forward BC style pale ale meant to appeal to a broad range of beer drinkers. This is a common style of beer here and will be familure to everyone.
Keeping IBUs down so as to not scare the Molson/Labatt and BMC drinkers.


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Label for Kegs Made:

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:03 AM   #2
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Perhaps I should be more specific.

Do you think 2 weeks in the fermenter, and two weeks in the kegs under pressure @ 45 - 50F will be enough to make this beer drinkable?
Should I use some kind of clearing agent after the gravity stabilizes? Or drop the gravity a bit? I do a mild at 1.040 that is drinkable at 2 weeks, even though its just going into the bottles.

What about the hops? Most beer even craft beer up hear in Canada is very lightly hopped. The most well known IPA (Alexander keiths) has about as much hop presence as Budweiser. Unless they are fans of the local brew pub most people I work with don't know what hops taste like. (and the Nobel Pig seriously over uses Syrian Goldings, to the point were I wont use them in my own brewing)

NOTE: I know time is the best answer, I wanted to have more but I don't. It took time to find a CO2 supplier willing to fill my tank and not make me buy a 20lb exchange tank for 200 something bucks. Then I had to get a proposal together for the owners of the company I work for (already fans of my beer). Long store short all of the ingredients are paid for and some of the kegging equipment is paid for by my company the rest is going on my company line of credit at 0%.

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:17 AM   #3
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As I am in Nelson BC I look forward to reading your recipe thoroughly. Let me say at the outset however that a couple of my employees have taken the "Serving It Right" course here and their descriptions of the liability chain that occurs if someone gives someone a drink and that someone goes out and kills someone else or themselves is so scary that I would never bring anything alcoholic to an office party for fear of winding up as an accessory to a manslaughter charge. Just sayin"!!!!

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Old 11-14-2012, 03:39 AM   #4
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2.00 lb Maris Otter (4.0 SRM) Grain 28.4 %
0.50 lb Carastan 35L (35.0 SRM) Grain 7.1 %
0.03 lb Pale Chocolate Malt (275.0 SRM) Grain 0.4 %
20.00 gm Northern Brewer (Canada) [9.00%] (60 min)Hops 23.8 IBU
7.00 gm Fuggles [4.50%] (20 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
2.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
0.50 lb Turbinado (10.0 SRM) Sugar 7.1 %
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 1 Step, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 2.53 lb
----------------------------
Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Saccharification Add 3.16 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 10 min 168.0 F 10 min


Notes:
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Malt forward BC style pale ale meant to appeal to a broad range of beer drinkers. This is a common style of beer here and will be familure to everyone.
Keeping IBUs down so as to not scare the Molson/Labatt and BMC drinkers.
Do you normally do partial mashes? I was just wondering because it would be easier to just up the malt extract and steep the crystal and chocolate.

The recipe sounds good to me, but I would probably up the amount of finishing hops and boil them for less time (maybe 10 mins instead of 20). I'm not a big fan of Fuggles, so I would probably just go with more Northern Brewer at the end. Just my $0.02.

Post a pic of a pint of this beer whenever you make it!

Cheers!
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As I am in Nelson BC I look forward to reading your recipe thoroughly. Let me say at the outset however that a couple of my employees have taken the "Serving It Right" course here and their descriptions of the liability chain that occurs if someone gives someone a drink and that someone goes out and kills someone else or themselves is so scary that I would never bring anything alcoholic to an office party for fear of winding up as an accessory to a manslaughter charge. Just sayin"!!!!
Our office always supplies the liquor and the rides home. It will not be me serving the beer to any one. I am just making it, the company paid for all the ingredients. There is no reason anyone will be driving. Quite frankly those 10 g will be a drop in the bucket compared to all the coolers, shots, cocktails, etc being consumed.

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Do you normally do partial mashes? I was just wondering because it would be easier to just up the malt extract and steep the crystal and chocolate.

The recipe sounds good to me, but I would probably up the amount of finishing hops and boil them for less time (maybe 10 mins instead of 20). I'm not a big fan of Fuggles, so I would probably just go with more Northern Brewer at the end. Just my $0.02.

Post a pic of a pint of this beer whenever you make it!

Cheers!
I considered it but the way the price of extract works out makes this way is significantly cheaper. And yes I normally do mini mashes, they are very little extra work, save some money and if your using something other then just 2 row as the base malt provide a closer flavour to the all grain version.

I will post pics. Probably a link to the company blog. Going to take pics step by step from grain to glass for a company blog post. We're an e commerce company so any content gets search engine traffic, and etc etc I don't want to get into SEO nonsense that's what I do at work.
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Having had some time to look it over I'd say your recipe is going to give you a nice version of BC Pale. I agree that a small amount of Maris Otter is going to up the chance of producing a nice rounded graininess.

The only thing I would do differently would be to perhaps replace the Fuggles with one of the Northwest variety of hops. Wilammette is close to Fuggles with more aroma. Or perhaps one of the citrusy strains like Simcoe or Citra.

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Having had some time to look it over I'd say your recipe is going to give you a nice version of BC Pale. I agree that a small amount of Maris Otter is going to up the chance of producing a nice rounded graininess.

The only thing I would do differently would be to perhaps replace the Fuggles with one of the Northwest variety of hops. Wilammette is close to Fuggles with more aroma. Or perhaps one of the citrusy strains like Simcoe or Citra.
I was working from a recipe that used cascade as the finishing hop. But I don't like cascade or the other citrusy ones really. I never though of Willamette though.... damn I already got the ingredients. I know they grow Fuggles in BC to though and I quite like them.

Got all my ingredients and kegging stuff today in the mail (except the LME I'll get that tomorrow). Going to brew on Saturday.
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Got the LME but ****ed up and took a container that's to small going to have to sub in some golden DME I have and up the Turbinado a touch to meet my OG.

Double brew day tomorrow. Plus cleaning kegs, really they couldn't even wash the pepsi out of the damn things?

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Got the LME but ****ed up and took a container that's to small going to have to sub in some golden DME I have and up the Turbinado a touch to meet my OG.
That could end up a serendipitous mistake, with some additional complexity in the final product. Let us know.
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