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noisy123 01-05-2009 02:57 PM

Arrogant Bastard Clone - Recipe Comparison
There are two Arrogant Bastard recipes I have seen online. Both are in one form or another posted on homebrewtalk.com. The first seems to have evolved from a partial mash recipe and calls for:
Recipe A:
15.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row)
0.50 lb Aromatic Malt
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt
0.50 lb Caramunich Malt
0.50 lb Special B Malt
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00%] (60 min)
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00%] (45 min)
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00%] (2 min)
+ any clean yeast (rumor has it Stone uses WLP007)

The second is essentially the AHS recipe:
Recipe B:
11.5 pounds pale two-row malt
1.5 pounds crystal 120
1.25 oz chinook pellets (12.5 aa%) (15.6 AAUs) @ 90 min
1.0 oz chinook pellets (12.5 AAUs) @ 30 min
0.5 oz chinook pellets (6.25 AAUs) @ flame out
1 tsp Irish moss
White Labs WLP007 or WLP001 (English Ale Yeast)

I would appreciate any comment from folks who have tried one (or both). Input would also be appreciated from brewers who can comment on which might be closer to Arrogant Bastard. Many thanks.

Yooper 01-05-2009 03:16 PM

I've only used the second. I've done it with 12 pounds maris otter, as well as with US 2-row. I've never used English ale yeast with it, though- I always use a clean well-attenuating US yeast like wlp001 or US05. I never did taste it head to head with the real thing, but I sure do like that recipe enough to make it about 3-4 times per year!

noisy123 01-05-2009 03:19 PM

I am inclined to think your recipe posted above might be more like the Stone recipe. Wouldn't it be likely that a commercial brewery would want to be extremely simple for the grain bill? Or does that kind of thing matter much to commercial breweries?

nowise 01-05-2009 04:05 PM

I just listened to a Jamil Show where they freaked out over using a lot of Crystal 120. I assume it works well for this recipe?

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