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Old 11-03-2007, 02:05 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hmmmm. Thanks. I know my clone won't really be a clone- I'll have to call it something like, "In the spirit of AB".

So, no one answered the question about MH or FWH. Would that smooth out some of the harshness of the chinook? What about centennial for the flavor hops? Maybe same type of flavor with less harshness?

I think I'm going to have to give this clone a try.
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Old 11-03-2007, 02:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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One of the guys in the Oregon Brew Crew did extensive research on FWH and decided it made no difference at all. However, he did not submit the variations to a certified tasting panel.
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I had some beers last week with a friend of mine that works for Stone. Here is what I can share.
Stone only uses pellet hops.
They do not use any cascade hops in any of their beer.
It is highly unlikely that they do any form of MH, or FWH.
Chinook and Centennial are key elements most of their core products.

The key to here is a good balance of Chinook/Centennial in the kettle in order to avoid the high alpha harshness that it may exude.

EDIT: I think a 90 minute boil is appropriate here.

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Old 11-03-2007, 05:07 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I have made this recipe and the 120L Chinook combination is the bomb. The recipe is really close. Although, I add more chinook because after a month in the bottles it doesn't have the punch it needs anymore.

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Old 11-03-2007, 08:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the input! I'll have to add chinook to my shopping list. I don't think I have any right now.

Again, thanks!
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Brewpastor thought AB was brewed with a completely different grain bill that I have seen in any other post (Oaked Arrogant Bastard)

Also using cenntenial hops, not chinook.

Do you think this may be a closer clone to AB?
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Chinook and Centennial are key elements most of their core products.

The key to here is a good balance of Chinook/Centennial in the kettle in order to avoid the high alpha harshness that it may exude.

EDIT: I think a 90 minute boil is appropriate here.
My son loves the whole lot of Bastards. I heard the same thing about mixing Chinook and centennial. I'm working on a low grav version here Please comment on low grav American IPA recipe. Judging by this comment, I'm way overboard with the centennial and will probably tweak it back so its 40/60.

Yooper: The 90 min boil is to get fuller bitter-ing utilization right?
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