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Ale's what cures ya!
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Well, I love the Bastard. I found this online:
Ingredients 11.5 pounds pale two-row malt 1.5 pounds crystal 120 1.25 oz chinook pellets (12.5 aa%) (15.6 AAUs) @ 90 min 1.0 oz chinook pellets (12.5 AAUs) @ 30 min 0.5 oz chinook pellets (6.25 AAUs) @ flame out 1 tsp Irish moss White Labs WLP007 or WLP001 (English Ale Yeast) Preparation Mash at 155 degrees for 60 minutes. Boil for 90 minutes, adding the hops according to schedule. Add Irish Moss last 5 minutes of the boil. Cool wort and pitch yeast. Primary ferment at about 68 F for 7 to 10 days. Secondary fermentation optional. Specifics Style Strong Ale Recipe Type All Grain Batch Size 5 gallons Original Gravity 1.074 Final Gravity 1.018 Boiling Time 90 minutes Primary Fermentation Glass, ~ 68 F, 7-10 days Secondary Fermentation optional Other Specifics 75 IBUs, about 7% abv. Comments Aging will mellow the Bastard so drink it young if you want to prove your worth. Extract Brewers can substitute Light Malt Extract for the 11.5 pounds of pale malt. Should take about 2 three pound cans. Ok, now for the questions! I've found chinook to be harsh in the past. Would doing a FWH help mellow it a bit, especially since the recipe calls for a 90 minute boil? Or maybe cut the boil to 60 minutes? How does it look to you AB drinkers? Thanks!!!!!! |
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My guess is the hops would probably be about right with the malt profile the Bastard has. It'll take a lot of hops to be "too much", so long as you let it age. If you plan to drink it on the young side, yeah, I'd probably back off on the chinook a bit. Personally, I'm surprised that's it for grains. I would have thought Bastard had more going on than 2-row and 120 Crystal. I really need to stop throwing so much different stuff into my beers!
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Discover the motherlode
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Is AB really 100% chinook?
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The one time I had AB on tap it was very very harsh IMO.
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AB seems to be different each time I drink it.
Chinook seems to be the standard hop I see in bastard recipes, but I personally am not a fan of those hops. I think if you get something similar but without the overly harsh afterbite of Chinook you'd be ok. the bastard is hoppy up front, but nice and even in the back. chinooks are bitter all the way until 30 seconds after it's already gone from your mouth.
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Imma chargin mah lazerz
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the 1.5 lbs of Crystal 120 will get the color of Arrogant Bastard, but it won't quite have the same taste. I don't have my recipes with me, but the version I used had (I'm not 100% sure so don't sue me if it's not right) the same amount of two row, then these extra grains.
0.5 lb Special-B 0.75 lb Biscuit 0.5 lb Aromatic 0.5 lb CaraMunich then the same amount of hop additions as your recipe. Chinook can be very harsh and it reminds me of extra sharp cheddar cheese. Luckily I love extra sharp cheddar cheese even though it binds me up somethin fierce.
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When I was at the Stone brewery last summer, I can tell you that they do use chinook as at least one type of addition. They were brewing and had a bucket of pellets that they later said were chinook.
Now for grain, I saw sacks of crystal 60, crystal 150, victory and a few other things laying around. I posted what they were at the time. I'll see if I can find that post... Edit... found it Another HBT member down to SD Quote:
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