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Old 09-03-2010, 07:50 PM   #1
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Default Aromatic/Amarillo SMASH

Trying something a little different this weekend. I'm doing an aromatic/amarillo SMASH in style of a marzen by the #s, but with an ale yeast (can't lager) and large hop aroma... so really not a marzen, but whatever I dunno what else to call it.

"Aroma Therapy"
5gal batch
OG: 1.054ish
IBUs: 20ish?
SRM: 20ish

10lbs Aromatic Malt
3.3oz Amarillo (@flameout w/ about 20mins steep)
S-04 or windsor yeast
mash @150F, ferment @66F (cooler if I can)

I wanted to do this with SF lager (WLP810) yeast, but I'm not sure if I can get my temp down low enough. BM's Oktoberfast got good reviews so figured S-04 will work fine for this. I'm thinking I'll need the lower mash temp with the grain bill, but I'm not sure if a higher temp would be more suited for this? I know ohiobrewtus did an aromatic/cascade SMASH pale ale at 150F that came out well.

As for the IBUs, I read in BYO about a brewery that whirlpools about 2oz (if rounded to 5g batch) of hops in a cream ale and was measured to be about 25IBUs. Mine probably won't be as thorough so figured an extra oz should put me in the same neighborhood.

Any advice/concerns?

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Old 09-04-2010, 12:39 AM   #2
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can aromatic self convert?

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I don't think so. Even if it could it would be WAY too malty...

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I was just listening to an old episode of the Jamil Show and he claimed it could self convert and that he had considered doing a 100% Aromatic but had never gotten around to it. Sounds kind of fun.

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It can convert. Ohiobrewtus for one did a similar SMaSH beer. It was pretty good, if I remember correctly.
+1, I PM'd before I thought about this and he said his actually came out good and was planning to try it again, so I figured it was worth a shot.

From our wiki: "Aromatic malt is high in diastatic power and can convert itself completely; however, because of the extremely strong aromatics it lends to the finished beer, most brewers avoid using more than 10% in a batch to maintain balance"
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/ind...lgian_Aromatic
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It can convert. Ohiobrewtus for one did a similar SMaSH beer. It was pretty good, if I remember correctly.
Same, Brewmaster's warehouse people confirmed it will self-convert
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just picked up half a sack of aromatic myself to try this out. Let us know how it pairs with the Amarillo. I'm still trying to decide how to hop my SMASH and happen to have about 1/2 a lb of amarillo in the freezer.

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I stand corrected.

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This is one of those things that seems so absurdly wrong to me that I can't wrap my head around how it might be possible. Please keep us posted when it is done - I'd be very interested in hearing how it turns out.

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