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Old 10-12-2010, 07:29 PM   #1
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Default American Amber(RED) With All Willamette Hops

I have a ton of willamete hops sitting around and I have decided to create something similar to Jamils Red Rocket clone, but with all willamete for aroma & flavor


12 pound two row
1 pound C40
8 oz c120
8 oz victory
3 oz pale choco
50 IBU Magnum at 60
2 oz willamette at 10
2 oz willamette at FO

I have never used willamette in such a capacity, I am hoping this hop can shine in this capacity, but I am hoping that somebody on the boards here has tried willamette in a similar capacity.

thanks for your help!

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I have never used willamette in such a capacity, I am hoping this hop can shine in this capacity, but I am hoping that somebody on the boards here has tried willamette in a similar capacity. . .
Back in July I brewed an Amber, but brown not red, using Willamette for flavor and aroma. Very pleased with the results. Had a nice mellow earthy aroma and finish. Used two lbs of brown malt in the 5 gallon batch and think that added some bitter dryness. Kegged it in two 2-1/2 gallon kegs. The first went really fast at a late summer picnic. Saving the second for the holidays. Curious to see how it ages?

Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.

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75 minutes Start Boil
60 minutes 2.35 oz Centennial 40 IBU
30 minutes 1.55 oz Centennial 20 IBU
20 minutes 1.00 oz Centennial 10 IBU / 1.60 oz Williamette 10 IBU
10 minutes 1.40 oz Williamette 5 IBU
0 minutes Flame-out
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1.0 oz Centennial / 1.0 oz Williamette
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:35 PM   #3
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Almost forgot. Got another Williamette creation in the works (brewed 8/28). If the sample going into the secondary is any indication, this will be a great combination. Just added the dry hops on Monday. Plan to keg at the end of the week.

I took advantage of the cheap Williamette prices also.


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75 minutes Start Boil
40 minutes .25 oz Chinook 7 IBU / .75 oz Williamette 8 IBU
30 minutes .25 oz Chinook 6 IBU /.75 oz Williamette 7 IBU
20 minutes .25 oz Chinook 5 IBU / .75 oz Williamette 6 IBU
10 minutes .25 oz Chinook 3 IBU / .75 oz Williamette 4 IBU
0 minutes .25 oz Chinook / .75 oz Williamette

Dry Hop
.25 oz Chinook / .75 oz Williamette
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:52 PM   #4
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Agreed, this will be nice.....I have done something similar

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Well, I have brewed one Willamette-only brew (bittered with Magnum), and I wasn't thrilled with the flavor (although it was a pale ale, not a red). After this, I decided I would only use W. in combination with other hops, so I recently brewed an amber with 1 part W. to 2 parts Cascade...haven't gotten to try it yet, though. My pale recipe here below (not one I plan to repeat as is):

Recipe: Willamette APA
Style: 10A-American Ale-American Pale Ale

Recipe Overview

Wort Volume Before Boil: 7.00 US gals
Wort Volume After Boil: 5.50 US gals
Volume Transferred: 5.50 US gals
Water Added: 0.00 US gals
Volume At Pitching: 5.50 US gals
Final Batch Volume: 5.00 US gals
Expected Pre-Boil Gravity: 1.042 SG
Expected OG: 1.053 SG
Expected FG: 1.013 SG
Expected ABV: 5.3 %
Expected ABW: 4.1 %
Expected IBU (using Tinseth): 37.8
Expected Color: 5.9 SRM
Apparent Attenuation: 74.0 %
Mash Efficiency: 80.0 %
Boil Duration: 60.0 mins
Fermentation Temperature: 64 degF

Fermentables
US 2-Row Malt 5lb 8oz (55.0 %) In Mash/Steeped
German Vienna Malt 2lb 8oz (25.0 %) In Mash/Steeped
US Caramel 20L Malt 8.00 oz (5.0 %) In Mash/Steeped
US Carapils Malt 8.00 oz (5.0 %) In Mash/Steeped
US Flaked Barley 8.00 oz (5.0 %) In Mash/Steeped
Canadian Honey Malt (Gambrinus) 8.00 oz (5.0 %) In Mash/Steeped

Hops
US Magnum (12.1 % alpha) 0.40 oz Loose Pellet Hops used 60 Min
US Willamette (4.5 % alpha) 1.00 oz Loose Pellet Hops used 20 Min
US Willamette (4.8 % alpha) 1.50 oz Loose Pellet Hops used 10 Min
US Willamette (4.8 % alpha) 2.00 oz Loose Pellet Hops used At turn off

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I think it'll be great. I have made several brews with only Willamette. I think it's awesome stuff.

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I've only made one batch with 100% Willamette, a brown porter. Willy is just too gentle and floral for a porter IMO; the same recipe was substantially brisker and more satisfying with 100% Chinook.
Build your AAA with the expectation of delicate hop character and it may work well, but the conventional wisdom is that Willamette is best used in conjunction with bolder American (C) hops.

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. . . but the conventional wisdom is that Willamette is best used in conjunction with bolder American (C) hops.
So, you approve of the Chinook / Williamette combo?
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I have decided on this as the final recipe

10 pound two row
1 pound C40
1 pound munich
8 oz c120
8 oz victory
4 oz pale choco
25 IBU Magnum at 60
.50 oz chinook @ 10
.50 oz willamette @10
.50 oz amarillo @10
.50 oz chinook @ FO
.50 oz willamette @FO
.50 oz amarillo @FO

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I've only made one batch with 100% Willamette, a brown porter. Willy is just too gentle and floral for a porter IMO; the same recipe was substantially brisker and more satisfying with 100% Chinook.
Build your AAA with the expectation of delicate hop character and it may work well, but the conventional wisdom is that Willamette is best used in conjunction with bolder American (C) hops.
Unless you like English style beers.
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