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Old 05-24-2011, 04:54 AM   #1
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Default Amber IPA (first scratch recipe)

Shooting for a slight spiciness and sweetness with a citrusy aroma. I'd do it using ahtanum but I can't find it around here. For yeast I'm trying to decide between WL001,008,0051 I'm leaning towards 51

Recipe: Amber IPA
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Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.02 gal
Estimated OG: 1.081 SG
Estimated Color: 14.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 70.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
7.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 47.30 %
6.50 lb Pilsner (2 Row) UK (1.0 SRM) Grain 43.92 %
1.00 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6.76 %
0.30 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2.03 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Sorachi Ace [10.90 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 38.4 IBU
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (30 min) Hops 22.0 IBU
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 9.5 IBU
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Tettnang [4.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (0 min) Hops -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body
Total Grain Weight: 14.80 lb
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Single Infusion, Full Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 18.50 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 11.10 qt of water at 198.6 F 168.0 F

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:09 AM   #2
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That looks like quite the hop schedule. Any reason for the variety of hops you are using?

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:18 AM   #3
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Sorry shifted around Warrior to 25
Nugget and Warrior are mainly there for the bittering, Warrior has some flavor
Simcoe is because I can only buy in 1 oz packages, so I figured half for a bit of flavor and bitterness half for 0 minute for aroma.
Columbus for a slightly earth flavor and hop base, Tettnang with some spiciness, Simcoe for a small amount of grapefruit.

The dry hopping is to bring out the citrus notes again, so ideally it has a citrus forward with a spicy sweet note at the back. At least thats the idea.

But please, just tear it apart.

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But please, just tear it apart.
Ok, well, you asked for it. Lol

I like the idea of using munich and pilsner malts. I would instead of using the munich as a base malt, I would cut it down to 15-20%. You will still achieve some maltiness to help balance out the hops bitterness. Are your grain prices all the same or do they differ like some stores? One here in Olympia sells all grains for $1.50 a lb while the other one has different prices for different malts. Anways, a standard 2 row would suffice instead of using british pilsner. I know this may sound weird, but I do it and it works great. I would add 1/2 lb of regular rolled oats for a silky mouthfeel and increased head retention. Maybe a touch of cara pils dextrine also, like 1/2 lb. Instead of using 1/3 lb of crstal 120, you could use a whole pound of crystal 40. Actually, I just created it in beersmith for ya. Just import it into your library after saving it to your desktop or wherever. OK, I thought I could attach it to the thread, I huess I cant so here ya go.
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Amber IPA
American IPA
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.72 gal
Boil Time: 90 min

Ingredients
Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 70.97 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 9.68 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 6.45 %
1.00 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6.45 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
0.50 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.23 %
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (90 min) Hops 15.5 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 14.5 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 29.0 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) Hops 7.2 IBU
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [17.90 %] (5 min) Hops 4.7 IBU
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [17.90 %] (0 min) Hops -

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.084 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.021 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 8.22
Bitterness: 71.0 IBU Calories:
Est Color: 11.8 SRM

Sparge Water: 1.83 gal
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F

Single Infusion, Full Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 5.00 gal of water at 165.6 F 154.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 2.00 gal of water at 207.9 F 168.0 F

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Old 05-24-2011, 07:29 AM   #6
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Hmm, basically there's just two prices, Base and Specialty

So I could keep the munich at a decent percentage, maybe drop it a bit. That way it stays a good amber color


6.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 42.48 %
5.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 35.95 %
1.30 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 8.50 %
1.00 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6.54 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.27 %
0.50 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.27 %

As for your hop additions, I really wanted to add in Sorachi/Centennial to dry hop to get that bit of lemon and grapefruit citrus right up front. Then the tettnang is a nice spiciness to it. Not really sure

Also the yeast... california could be safe and interesting, east coast has never done me wrong, California V though could be pretty cool (I might just increase the batch size a hair and just throw this into a 1 gallon)

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Old 05-24-2011, 05:04 PM   #7
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I'd back down on the crystal, 2.8lbs is a ton for a 5gal batch, esp if you want this to be hoppy. I'd cut it to 1lb max.
as for the hops, I'd def cut the tett since its gunna be overpowered by everything else. Unless you're clearing out some hops, I'd probably reduce the varities too, you don't want it to get too muddied.
I don't think you could go wrong with any of those yeast choices. I'd just randomly pick one or split it like you mentioned

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Old 05-24-2011, 05:33 PM   #8
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2.8 lbs? Its at 1.3, ok I cut back a bit on it, and simplified the hop bill so its similar to yours but I really wanted to try dry hopping with sorachi and centennial. Though sorachi + columbus might fit better with the theme.

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.02 gal
Estimated OG: 1.082 SG
Estimated Color: 13.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 82.8 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 43.33 %
5.50 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 36.67 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %
1.00 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6.67 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.33 %
0.50 lb Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 3.33 %
1.00 oz Sorachi Ace [10.90 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 41.1 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (20 min) Hops 23.1 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) Hops 14.6 IBU
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (5 min) Hops 4.1 IBU

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 15.00 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 18.75 qt of water at 163.9 F 1524.0 F
10 min Mash Out Add 10.50 qt of water at 200.7 F 168.0 F

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carapils and honey malts are crystal malts.

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Old 05-24-2011, 05:53 PM   #10
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I thought cara pils was just slightly modified didn't really count. I am shooting for an amber here if you think about it.
So playing around with the numbers to manage to keep the same color while cutting back on crystal

9 lb Munich
4 lb 2-Row
0.5 lb Cara-Pils
0.5 lb Crystal 80L
0.5 lb Honey
0.5 lb Oats Flaked

Thanks for the help by the way.

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