Originally Posted by jlpred55
This is no fun Bob. I am crying into my beer. Anyone made an amber with just 2-row and crystal in those amounts? I have, yuck!!! I personally love Victory in my Amber and so does Jamil.
Hey, to each his own, man. You don't care for it and that's fine. Thousands of fans of such beers as Mendocino's Red Tail Ale and other famous benchmark Ambers might disagree, but it's your right as a brewer to go swim against the tide if it makes you happy.
God forbid we should gainsay Jamil!
I like Victory, too. I don't like it in Amber; it's too toasty-malty, and I don't find it appropriate for the style. I save it for Brown Ale and the odd Pale Ale. If you like it, use it.
Don't worry about style overmuch. Styles primarily help drinkers
, not brewers.
Styles are an easy shorthand as to what I might expect in the bottle. If I'm told I'm drinking an Amber Ale and it tastes like a Brown Ale or Bock from all the malt, I get confused - no matter how good it is, the beer won't taste like a good Brown Ale or Bock; it'll taste like a poor example of Amber Ale.
Styles also help brewers. It's wise to "dial in" one's skills trying to epitomize a certain style. If you can brew a Dry Irish Stout just as good as Guinness using Guinness's ingredients list, you're on to something. You can't go too far afield with ingredients in this pursuit or it won't turn out right.
See what I mean?