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Old 01-19-2012, 03:20 PM   #71
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Well you've convinced me sir. I'll be brewing up a batch of this this weekend in a marathon brew session. I have a 55 lb sack of Pilsen malt, and was looking for something to make with it other than the Schwarzbier I bought it for!


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Old 01-19-2012, 05:55 PM   #72
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Well good for you! Make sure that you use both yeasts! Have fun!
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:19 PM   #73
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your lb of corn sugar, was that for the entire boil? last 15 min?
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:35 PM   #74
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15 mins
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:36 PM   #75
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Last 15 mins
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:05 AM   #76
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Kegged today after exactly one month on the cubes. The oak level is perfect, but I went back and forth for awhile on the Beam. It wasn't as apparent as I remember in the real thing -- although it's now been a few months since I last tasted it -- but as I added small amounts to the tasting glass, there seemed to be a razor thin margin between "still not enough" and "way too much."

Anyway, I went with 1/8th of a cup of JB added to the keg. May not be enough, but adding more is a lot easier than taking it out

Will post again when I have tasting notes.
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Old 02-01-2012, 03:06 AM   #77
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I am having another glass and oh my word this just gets so much better with age! It's getting closer to the original the longer I age it at 36F in the kegerator. I'm very, very happy with this beer!
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Old 02-07-2012, 06:20 PM   #78
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This beer* is stupidly good. I wish I'd made 50 gallons, rather than five.

Ordinarily I'm happy to share the homebrew with anyone in the neighborhood who wants it. I take pitchers across the street for our semi-regular "get together and let the neighborhood kids tire each other out" Friday gatherings.

This beer will be shared by the shot glass, not the pitcher.

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*I say "this beer" advisedly. I changed the recipe somewhat. Since I plan to make this beer many times, for the first attempt I ditched the CaraPils and corn sugar and went with 100% Belgian pilsner malt. I also mashed slightly warmer, at 153, because to me this isn't a thin beer. And as noted before, we did different things with the hop (by necessity) and bourbon (by recommendation) additions. So I don't think 1Mainebrew and I have made the exact same beer.

But a lot of that stuff is really just marginal adjustment and everyone's system is different anyway. The two keys I see are the dual yeast selections and the oaking schedule, both of which 1Mainebrew's recipe absolutely nails.

I'll be back in CA soon. I hope to be able to find Curieux somewhere so I can do a comparison to see how close the clone is. That will help determine adjustments for next time. Right now, I can't decide if I like where it is right now or if I want to try to dry it out a bit more. I think probably the latter, but I've already been told "changing anything would be crazy," so we'll see.

Thanks, OP. This was awesome.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:22 PM   #79
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Have not brewed a triple on over a year, so I will be doing this brew on Friday. Have the oak (French Oak) soaking, and did seperate starters for the yeast. The only thing I am going to do differently is use table rather than corn sugar.
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Old 02-23-2012, 03:09 AM   #80
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Ok, so I finally made it back to California this past weekend, which meant I could pick up a bottle of the real thing for a comparison tasting:



My wife and I started with blind triangle tasting (we each poured for each other). The beers were pretty darn close -- if not for the difference in yeast character, you could have convinced me that either one was the Curieux -- but distinguishable.

In this go round, there were five key differences:

1. Finishing gravity - As mentioned before, I brewed the recipe without sugar. The Allagash:



Was dryer than my version:



2. Belgian yeast character - The Allagash had FAR more Belgian character. This is where my fermentation options get me. I have a secondhand wine fridge I use to control temperatures. Unfortunately, it's only adjustable up to 65 degrees. I'm going to need to figure out a way to go warmer to match this beer.

3. Obviousness of the bourbon - I added just 1/8th of a cup of bourbon when I went into the keg, yet the Jim Beam is obvious as the glass nears your nose. In comparison, I almost had to fight to pick up the bourbon character in the Allagash. I feel like that hasn't been the case when I've had the beer before, so maybe the past couple weeks of drinking my version have re-set my palate? Or perhaps they have some batch-to-batch variation.

4. Clarity - Once we moved on from the plastic cups to actual glasses, the visual difference between the beers was pretty obvious:



The Allagash might clear if I let it sit in the fridge long enough.

5. My version doesn't set me back $17.99 for a 750 ml bottle - And at the end of the day, that might just be the biggest difference of all


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