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NTOLERANCE · 10-20-2009, 03:58 AM

Well, it seems my wifes problems with beer (as mentioned in a previous thread) stem from a possible allergy to........BARLEY.

So, my thought is to try an all wheat beer.

Can all flaked wheat be used as the main ingredient??

Or should I use wheat malt?

I realize the type of beer an all wheat brew would be, but it seems to be possibly the only beer she will be able to comsume.

Any thoughts?

brewmasterpa · 10-20-2009, 04:19 AM

You cannot use 100% wheat anything as a base. You have to mix with barley at a rate of 60/40 wheat to barley. There are not enough enzymes in wheat to properly break down the proteins and allow for a sacharification process to occur. That's why wheat beers are cloudy and cannot be cleared. It's the proteins.

Chester · 10-20-2009, 05:10 AM

From what I have read that is not true. Some malted wheat will convert itself but prepare for sparge nightmare. Just add lots of rice hulls.
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14135
also from beer advocate:

Quote:

Base Malts Base malts usually account for a large percent of the total grain bill, with darker-colored specialty malts accounting for 10 to 25% of the grain bill. The only exception is wheat malt, which can make up to 100% of the total grain bill in brewing wheat beers. Base malts and, to some extent, light-colored specialty malts provide most of the enzymatic (diastatic) power to convert starches into fermentable sugars. The base malts provide the highest extract potential. Dark-colored specialty malts, caramelized malts, roasted malts, unmalted barely, and other malted grains are added in smaller quantities to obtain darker colors and to enhance flavor characteristics. Depending on the style of beer brewed, the brewer may use only one or two types of barley malts, or as many as seven or eight. Other grains used in brewing include corn, rye, and oats.

there are more reputable sources but I don't care to go thumbing through my books to find them...

check the diastatic power of white wheat malt:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Dark_Wheat#White_Wheat_Malt

I may have to bump this 100% wheat beer to the top of my list to see for sure...

you could always add some Amylase enzyme to the mash to help out.

NTOLERANCE · 10-20-2009, 12:01 PM

Thanks for the info...much appreciated.

I noticed my Beersmith program says I can use Wheat extract up to 100%.

I am thinking about a partial mash now, with extract and wheat malt/flaked wheat.

***Yooper*** · 10-20-2009, 12:07 PM

I don't know where you can buy 100% wheat malt extract. The wheat extract I've seen is usually only about 60% wheat/40% barley. Make sure you read labels carefully to ensure you'd have only wheat extract.

Edcculus · 10-20-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brewmasterpa

You cannot use 100% wheat anything as a base. You have to mix with barley at a rate of 60/40 wheat to barley. There are not enough enzymes in wheat to properly break down the proteins and allow for a sacharification process to occur. That's why wheat beers are cloudy and cannot be cleared. It's the proteins.

While there is no rule saying it has to be 60/40, you typically need some 2 row or pils for diastatic power. I'm thinking it might be hard to do an all wheat mash, but maybe not impossible.

Wheat beers are cloudy because wheat malt contains more beta-glucans, not because the enzymes (protease) can't break down the proteins. Thats also why wheat malt gunks up a mash. A protein rest would be a huge help in a beer like this.

Ølbart · 10-20-2009, 02:08 PM

Wheat malt often has very high diastatic power, but it will of course vary from maltster to maltster. Weyermann's pale wheat malt has a diastatic power of 200 WK, or ~60 °L. That's plenty.

remilard · 10-20-2009, 02:16 PM

Most white wheat malt will convert itself easily.

You will probably want to step mash, spending some time at a beta glucan rest and a protein rest.

Lautering will be a pain. Lots of rice hulls, brew in a bag might be a superior lautering system.

Edcculus · 10-20-2009, 04:41 PM

Has anyone ever made an all wheat malt beer? I'm starting to wonder what it would taste like.

diana14 · 10-20-2009, 05:44 PM

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