I'm going to lose mad respect points among brewers for this, but one of my favorite beers has always been Michelob's Amber Bock. It may be just nostalgia (my father and I used to drink them together), but I'd really like to brew something similar. Two problems... 1) I brew with extract and 2) I don't have the means for lagering yet. The latter being crucial to the whole concept of bock...does anyone have ideas for how I could brew something close? Has anyone had bock-like results with ale yeasts?