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Old 05-07-2007, 12:44 AM   #1
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Okay, I've brewed just about every style of beer that I'm interested in, at least for now, and I'm considering doing some variations on previous recipes to give them a summertime feeling. Obviously, putting wheat into beers is great for the summer, so I present my two latest ideas.

First, Nuclear Summer Stout:

7 lb Wheat LME
1 lb Oats, Flaked
1 lb Roasted Barley
1/2 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 5.2 %
2 oz Black Patent Malt
1.00 oz Target 11% (30 min) 30.2 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent 5% (0 min)
1 Pkgs London Ale (White Labs #WLP013)

Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated FG: 1.015 SG
Estimated Color: 39.7 SRM
Bitterness: 30.2 IBU
Alpha Acid Units: 2.2 AAU
Estimated ABV: 4.9 %


This is pretty close to my Winter Stout, with less black patent and no flaked barley. I think it could work, although I'm not sure if I should change the hops around. I also would probably add blackberry extrac to a 1/5 of this batch, which I did with great success with my winter stout.

Second, (tentatively named) Crystal Dawn:

9 lb Wheat LME
1 lb Munich Malt
1/2 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L
1/2 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L
1/2 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L
1 oz Summit 18% (30 min) 44 IBU
5 oz Crystal 3.5% (5 min) 11.1 IBU

Estimated OG: 1.067 SG
Estimated FG: 1.017 SG
Estimated Color: 14.7 SRM
Bitterness: 55.1 IBU
Alpha Acid Units: 3.6 AAU
Estimated ABV: 6.5 %


This one is in the very beginning planning stages. I've had two different concepts that I'm considering combining. One is doing a beer with all the crystal malts, or at least a good number of them. I think my LHBS has four different ones, so I'll have to check on that. The other part of the first concept is using only crystal hops for bittering, flavor, and aroma. The other idea is a wheat IPA.

So I've kinda grafted them together into a Frankstein's Beer. I cheated by using Summit for the bittering hops, because otherwise I'd have to get about 3/4 lb of hops to get the IBUs I want if I used only Crystal. This second recipe is definitely wide open for changes, so if anyone has suggestions or comments, they'd be greatly appreciated.

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Hey man, I have an AG stout going that is very similar to your nuclear stout. Its ready to be bottled and tasting REAL good.

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Awesome. The wheat stout recipe is more locked in. I feel pretty good about it. The one I'm not so sure about is the wheat IPA. Has anyone ever tried to make an IPA using hops other than the traditional big citrusy American varieties? I tried a german ingredients only IPA brewed in Texas. It's okay, but not really hoppy enough. I talked to the brewmaster and he said the dry-hopping didn't come out as good as he wanted initially, and the third batch of it is nice and juicy, so I'll be giving it another try.

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Default Final Recipe for Nulcear Summer Stout

7.00 lb Wheat Liquid Extract
1.00 lb Barley, Flaked
1.00 lb Oats, Flaked
0.50 lb Chocolate Malt
0.50 lb Roasted Barley
0.25 lb Black (Patent) Malt
1.00 oz Target [10.00%] (20 min)
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.00%] (0 min)
0.50 oz Burton Water Salts
1 Pkgs London Ale (White Labs #WLP013)

This recipe is almost identical to my original oatmeal stout. I upped the LME to 7lbs from 6lbs, and I dropped the black patent from 1/2lb (!) to just 1/4lb. Otherwise, it's the same thing. I brewed it this morning, and got an OG of 1.051. It's got the nice roastiness, and some pleasant breadiness in it as well, with a pretty quality bitter finish. Looking forward to the results!

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i'd be interested in a Wheat IPA recipe!

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i've got a few recipes lined up using wheat and my new favorite: ACID MALT....yummy...small amounts in brew add wonderful flavor

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i'd be interested in a Wheat IPA recipe!
I've split that previous recipe into two different ones. The wheat IPA is going to be called Incendiary IPA:

9.00 lb Wheat Liquid Extract
1.00 lb Munich Malt
1.00 lb Pale Malt
0.50 oz Summit [18.00%] (30 min)
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.00%] (20 min)
0.50 oz Summit [18.00%] (10 min)
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.00%] (0 min)


This recipe hits just above 40 IBUs, which is on the low side for an IPA, but seems more appropriate for a wheat beer. The predicted OG is 1.067. This is a lot closer to the final recipe, but I still may change it around some, maybe adding a third hop variety, either during the boil or for dry-hopping. I'm thinking I might skip dry-hopping for this one though.
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I have one that uses a bit of each of your concepts in my secondary right now. It uses 3 caramel/crystal malts and also has acid malt, but unfortunately no wheat (I usually put about 1 lb wheat DME into whatever I'm brewing for head retention).
Your Crystal Dawn recipe looks good to me, keep us posted!

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This looks good! What yeast did you use for this?

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This looks good! What yeast did you use for this?
I haven't made the Wheat IPA yet, and I haven't actually picked out a yeast strain either. I could go all over the place with this. On the one hand, I could go with a standard IPA yeast, like White Labs WLP001 California Ale. I could also try to emphasize weizen qualities with something like WLP300 Hefeweizen Ale, although I'm not sure the bubblegum and banana flavors would work well with a strong citrus hoppiness. I could even get a little crazy and try WLP400 Belgian Wit Ale, for a spicier flavor. Tough decision!
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