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**kshuler** · 09-26-2011, 05:07 AM

What water profile are you all using? I have very soft water here in Seattle. On my pale ales I have been using pretty much Mosher's Ideal Pale Ale divided by two. Do you all treat your water when making this?

madbird1977 · 09-26-2011, 09:17 PM

Hate to ask but any way to help a newbie and convert the recipe to an extract? I get all the citra hops and additions but cook times, grains, etc would they all be about the same for a 5 gallon batch brewed up extract style?

xsists · 09-26-2011, 10:43 PM

Boil time should be the same. To convert to extract you can use a brewing software like BeerSmith.

As far as water, I don't treat mine yet. Problem is, my water supply can change at any given moment. I live in a city that told me that my water can come from 18 different sources or any combination at any given time. I do know my water is pretty hard.

**skeezerpleezer** · 09-26-2011, 11:38 PM

This should be pretty close:

6.00 lb Extra Light Dry Extract (3.0 SRM) Dry Extract 70.6 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 11.8 %
0.50 lb Carafoam (2.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
0.50 lb Melanoiden Malt (20.0 SRM) Grain 5.9 %
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (60 min) Hops 25.1 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (20 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 12.5 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (15 min) Hops 12.4 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (10 min) Hops 9.1 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (5 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (1 min) Hops 1.1 IBU
3.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (DCL Yeast #S-05) Yeast-Ale
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.066 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Color: 9.0 SRM
Bitterness: 65.2 IBU

Steep the grains at in the mid 150s for 45-60 minutes. It is assuming a 5 gallon batch, 3 gallon - 60 minute boil, and adding the extract at the beginning. If you can do a full boil you probably wouldn't need the extra oz at 60minutes.

As far as water quality, I didn't add anything and haven't got around to finding the water profile for my new town, Roswell, GA.

madbird1977 · 09-27-2011, 03:42 AM

Thanks much I may just try this next Sunday. I'll report back . Thx again.

**kshuler** · 09-27-2011, 11:49 AM

Thanks about the water. I'll see if I can find the roswell profile, but I imagine that might be hard online.

**kshuler** · 09-27-2011, 11:56 AM

Can't find Roswell's water profile easily- need to call the water departm,ent to get it. But if it is anything like Atlanta's profile it is quite soft, not much different from seattle water or pilsen water. Maybe I'll try it with no water adjustment at all.

madbird1977 · 09-27-2011, 01:44 PM

sorry one more question on the hop addtions for the extract piece you note:

1.00 oz Citra [12.40%] (60 min) Hops 25.1 IBU
0.75 oz Citra [12.40%] (20 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 12.5 IBU

??? = Is the 1 oz addtion in the steeping time (45-60 mins) or right after I pour in the extract for the full on boil? Also, what's a "full boil"? Is that you just keep it going after the steeping?

Thanks again!

**skeezerpleezer** · 09-27-2011, 03:35 PM

Put the .75 FWH (20min is just to help calculate the perceived bitterness) addition in with the steeping grains. I would put this in a separate bag. Once you get the boil going (after hot break) add the 60 addition and continue like normal.

Full boil is if you are boiling the whole volume, not a smaller amount then topping off with water after the boil. So for this it would be around 6.5g depending on boil off rate.

madbird1977 · 09-27-2011, 06:32 PM

Many thanks again. I'm buying the supply now.