1554 (new belgium)

ρ®ïMσ · 09-18-2007, 07:13 PM

im still new at this and had another question. im ordering the 1554 clone kit from AHB (has anyone tried this btw?) and had a question about the yeast options it gives for the kit 1white labs southern german lager 2. wyeast danish lager 3.saflager. question #1 if 1554 is a blcak ale then why are kit options w lager yeast? would any dry yeast work? and is there a big difference in the resulting product between the yeasts mentioned above? the reason i ask is bc attenuation for the lager yeast is much lower and i dont keep my house quite that cold..suggestions/recommendations?

**cubbies** · 09-18-2007, 07:18 PM

Not to be rude, but if you dont have any way of getting temps down, my suggestion would be to not brew a lager.

Ryanh1801 · 09-18-2007, 07:25 PM

From their website

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Other than being dark in color, 1554 has little in common with Porters or Stouts. The beer is fermented at relatively high temperatures using a European lager yeast that imparts a refreshing, zesty acidity. Chocolate and coffee tones in the nose give way to a surprisingly clean finish. With 1554 our staff hoped to create a beer similar to what folks enjoyed nearly five-hundred years ago without ignoring five-hundred years of technological innovation.We hope you’ll agree that 1554 is the delicious result of a lot of well-spent library time.

might try and give them an email and see if they would let you know what temp. they ferment at. Not sure how homebrew friendly they are.

Ó Flannagáin · 09-18-2007, 08:28 PM

Off topic: Picked up a sixer of those tonight. I realize for the price, they are a good beer. I was looking at other real belgian ales, and the price was more than twice for the amount.

ρ®ïMσ · 09-18-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cubbies

Not to be rude, but if you dont have any way of getting temps down, my suggestion would be to not brew a lager.

1554 says its a black ale NOT a lager..my question was primarily about the yeast.

**shlap** · 09-18-2007, 08:49 PM

Yeah, strange that they would include lager yeast with 1554 black ALE. I would think Safale 5 would be just fine. I don't remember much yeast character or sweetness in that stuff.

malkore · 09-18-2007, 08:53 PM

lager yeast is a little cleaner fermenting....it must fit the profile for this clone in their opinion.

brewt00l · 09-18-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by malkore

lager yeast is a little cleaner fermenting....it must fit the profile for this clone in their opinion.

If you read that quote from the website from Ryanh1801, they mention they use lager yeast @ higher temps. Interesting that it is something akin to a steam beer.

Haven't had this one (or Abbey, which I would also like to sample) since NB products don't make it into PA or the surrounding area. Maybe I need to get a trade going....

Ryanh1801 · 09-18-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brewt00l

If you read that quote from the website from Ryanh1801, they mention they use lager yeast @ higher temps. Interesting that it is something akin to a steam beer.

Haven't had this one (or Abbey, which I would also like to sample) since NB products don't make it into PA or the surrounding area. Maybe I need to get a trade going....

I was wondering if anyone read that.

Beerrific · 09-18-2007, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryanh1801

I was wondering if anyone read that.

Me too

In addition to what Ryanh1801 said, you might ask AHS what temp their customers (or they) have had the best luck with.

If I had to guess I would go low/mid 60s.

Also, the Saflager option should work fine if you prefer dry yeast.