ok, so i've been reading on this various different places for the past hour since SWMBO is gone tonight. Still doing extract so i've got LME rather than base grains
3# Light/extra Pale LME
4# Munich LME (60% 2-row, 40% munich i believe)
8 oz crystal 120
8 oz carapils
2 oz chocolate malt
2 oz de-bittered black
.75 oz magnum @ 60
Yeast: WLP838 or WY2124
also read on brewing network about some "Grains of Paradise" but i don't really know what that contributes so i don't really know how that will impact the outcome.
I've got a couple more brews planned coming up, but this one's going to be next in line i think.