Foamer infection, 5th in a row and you KNOW I'm sanitizing.
Switched from One Step to Iodophor to Star San for a batch still unopened.
Process.
Cleaned infected bottles from previous batch, then soaked all equipment in bottling bucket filled with Iodophor solution, each bottle had at least 10 minutes of soaking. All Equipment same. Hoses, bottle wand, caps, bottles, everything was soaked at least 10 minutes.
Bottled over open dish washer. Maybe dishwasher? Maybe bottles?? I'll change location next batch.
I have one more batch carbing and sprayed Star san inside dishwasher with same technique above on that one. I was sure I had beaten it this last batch as I was a little anal.
If this does not do it I'll start buying all new equipment. 35 straight perfect brews and BAM. Foamers!
Foamers have to be at bottling right?
Thanks for listening - nothing you guys can do but had to blow off steam tonight!
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Last edited by Grinder12000; 09-19-2009 at 03:11 AM.
If every bottle is infected, then your bottles themselves are likely not the problem. Sounds like a stubborn nasty somewhere higher up the chain. Your bottling bucket could be scratched up and have something living in there. Or maybe your spigot; that seems to be a popular source of infection. I wouldn't bother taking it apart; just buy a new one.
10 minutes of iodophor may not be enough time to kill some molds or spore-forming bacteria. For that a strong bleach solution would be best. But if you've had the same equipment for 35+ brews, it's probably not a bad idea to replace all your plastic equipment at this point.
I have changed out the spigot = the ones with a red handle have a dip inside that can hide things, on the inside where the sprockets are.
I THOUGHT of the bucket but thought a 10 minute soak would kill ANYTHING. I purchased a new bottling wand.
Yea = hoses, bucket, and the auto siphon??????? hmmmmm that's not soft plastic though. hmmmmm
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But if you've had the same equipment for 35+ brews, it's probably not a bad idea to replace all your plastic equipment at this point.
That line SHOULD be a sticky somewhere. Brilliantly said! +1
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Grinders Island Brewery - Pipeline
Pigged - Dbl Chocolate Stout (76), Primary #1 - Dunkelweizen (79) on tap at a brewery (community tap), Primary #2 - Nut Brown (78) Starter Pacman yeast, On Deck - Dead Arrogant Guy (81), On Deck - One Putt12 IPA (82)
Give a man a beer, and he wastes an hour, but teach a man how to brew, and he wastes a lifetime.
No soak is long enough if the scratch is too small for the sanitizer to effectively penetrate. Bacteria can get into scratches so small you absolutely cannot see them. I once had a gusher infection for three batches, and finally getting a new bottling bucket fixed the problem.
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I would probably replace all the plastic as well. Hey, if it makes you feel any better, I'm drinking a smoked porter I brewed recently and it absolutely sucks, only 47 bottles of this crap to go...mmm, fusel alcohols, my favorite. I guess that 90 degree plus heat wave during ferment didn't help this beer!!!
Yea = tonight was a pretty big disappointment as an Imperial Stout with 8 oz of 2 different coffees (flame out and dry hop) and 4 oz of 2 different chocolate came up bad.
It was amazing after 1 week.
But - you have helped me feel better. NEW PLASTIC! makes sense.
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Grinders Island Brewery - Pipeline
Pigged - Dbl Chocolate Stout (76), Primary #1 - Dunkelweizen (79) on tap at a brewery (community tap), Primary #2 - Nut Brown (78) Starter Pacman yeast, On Deck - Dead Arrogant Guy (81), On Deck - One Putt12 IPA (82)
Give a man a beer, and he wastes an hour, but teach a man how to brew, and he wastes a lifetime.
I have to think it's equipment being 5 in a row. Not a random yeast floating around and with me working at sanitation and being in tune with killing bad bugs!
SOMETHING I have is causing the problem. I THOUGHT it was the spigot. But as mentioned after 35 batches with one bucket a micro scratch could have happened in the bucket and once infected I was doomed with having 25 gallons (soon to be 30) go down the drain.
OR = bottles? If I was not getting the infected bottles totally clean even though I would soak them in Iodophor for 10 minutes. But you would thing not ALL bottles would be FUBR!
At least I can still brew!!
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Grinders Island Brewery - Pipeline
Pigged - Dbl Chocolate Stout (76), Primary #1 - Dunkelweizen (79) on tap at a brewery (community tap), Primary #2 - Nut Brown (78) Starter Pacman yeast, On Deck - Dead Arrogant Guy (81), On Deck - One Putt12 IPA (82)
Give a man a beer, and he wastes an hour, but teach a man how to brew, and he wastes a lifetime.
Last edited by Grinder12000; 09-19-2009 at 03:04 PM.
WOW - yet another infection! CRAP
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