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TravelingBrewer22 01-10-2011 09:10 PM

Wort Transfer Pump
I need some sage advice. I know that March pumps are the preferred method of transferring hot wort from the boil kettle to the carboy via chiller (immersion or plate). I've seen the "chugger" pump on ebay for a great price as well. What about the Wayne PC2 pump? It seems like it would be sufficient but I am not sure if it will work or not for my setup (http://www.amazon.com/Wayne-PC2-115-.../dp/B000CPZTEK). I recently swapped out my IC for a 30-plate chiller and want to tranfer through it using this pump bc it's the cheapest option.

Please let me know what you guys think. Thanks!

Walker 01-10-2011 09:31 PM

March pumps are not necessarily THE preferred pump anymore. Little Giant makes some excellent magnetic drive pumps and from the reading I did before buying one, they seem to be a lot quieter and perhap even more durable. (According to the specs, I can run my little giant dry for 8 hours without damaging the pump).

Anyway... from some digging I did back when the chugger first came out, I am pretty sure that the Chugger's ARE march 809's, probably with some scratches or something and being unloaded as factory seconds. I think they just get a green paint job and a new logo and become Chugger Pumps.

Regarding the Wayne pump you linked to... it looks like a basic transfer pump and not really meant for hot liquids that will eventually be consumed. I have a little pump like that in my garage. I got it with the intention of using it to pump ice water through my IC, but two things about it made me stop using it.

First, it was loud. CRAZY loud.

Second, it had to be primed with vegetable oil to get it lubricated before each use.

You really want to find a magnetic drive pump, preferably made of food grade materials and capable of handling the high temps of boiling hot wort.

Walker 01-10-2011 09:36 PM

i read some of the amazon reviews of the pump. it's exactly like the one in my garage; loud and needs to be primed with cooking oil before using it.

I don't think you want cooking oil inside your chiller or in your fermenter.

weirdboy 01-10-2011 09:38 PM

I just bought that pump to help move some water we had in the yard due to the recent flooding here in SoCal.

It is a piece of crap. First as Walker says you do have to put vegetable oil in there every time you use it. The one I got worked great for about 20 minutes before it stopped working. I opened it up and noticed that it was missing a gasket, and the impeller was warped after 20 minutes of of pumping 40F water.

Also there's no way I'd trust that to pump anything that I was planning to drink.

Randar 01-10-2011 09:38 PM

Actually, the Chugger pumps are cheap Chinese knockoffs being "designed" (aka ripped off since patents have expired) and sold by one of March pump's East Coast distributors. There are definitely some questions about the manufacturing quality and the amount of testing being done, but the basic design is identical to the 809 series March pumps.

But it's 140 bucks for a true March pump American-made and designed product where the company will actually stand behind it and support it after the sale has been made.

I have a Little Giant and a March 809 with the upgraded impeller. I like them both, although the Little Giant model I have is a much more powerful model (and cost it) so I use them for different uses in my brewery.

weirdboy 01-10-2011 09:42 PM

Oh related to pumps you can actually use for wort:

I have a Gorman-Rupp magnetic drive pump that I found on ebay for something like $40 that works great. The only caveats are that it doesn't have threaded inlet/outlet connections and uses 1/2" hose barb connections instead, so it's kind of a pain to get hooked up on brew day.

TravelingBrewer22 01-11-2011 02:28 AM

Right on, thanks guys for the input. What are the model numbers for the Little Giant and Gorman-Rupp pumps so I can check them out?

BrotherFreeman 01-11-2011 02:59 AM

I am no expert but I think they would be referring to these:


In addition to online you can probably order these from a local Ferguson or other plumbing distributor.

Walker 01-11-2011 03:01 AM

No, not the submersible pumps from Little Giant.

I have the 3-MD-HC. They're a bit more expensive than a march 809.

weirdboy 01-11-2011 03:40 AM

I have no idea on the model number for my pump. But it's a moot point because there was only one guy selling them (so far as I could tell) and I must have bought the last one because I could never find another for sale.

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