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Old 10-05-2007, 09:17 AM   #51
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Old 10-05-2007, 01:50 PM   #52
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Wow! Is that how crushed grain is supposed to look? I just did my first AG last weekend and I bought precrushed grain from Austin Homebrew. It looked like it was barely crushed. I almost thought they forgot to crush it except for some "flour" on the bottom of the bag. Maybe I should start crushing my old grains. My efficiency was only 62%!!!
That’s why people who get mills immediately report an increase in efficiency. Does the grain need to be THAT crushed? No.

I actually ran the batch through twice on the factory setting. Trying to close that gap too much on an initial run can be a little strenuous. I’d [refer to crush, examine and repeat if necessary.

I just wanted to see how far I could take the crush before experiencing a stuck sparge. For this batch, I did have a “slower” runoff but no where near stuck. I also got about a 78% efficiency. (5.2Ph Stabilizer is my next plan of attack.)
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Old 10-05-2007, 10:51 PM   #53
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That’s why people who get mills immediately report an increase in efficiency. Does the grain need to be THAT crushed? No.

I actually ran the batch through twice on the factory setting. Trying to close that gap too much on an initial run can be a little strenuous. I’d [refer to crush, examine and repeat if necessary.

I just wanted to see how far I could take the crush before experiencing a stuck sparge. For this batch, I did have a “slower” runoff but no where near stuck. I also got about a 78% efficiency. (5.2Ph Stabilizer is my next plan of attack.)
Yeah, I was really unsure if my grain was actually crushed. After I saw some flour in the bottom of the bag, I assumed they did crush it. But, after seeing your crushed grain, I think I need a grain mill now!!!

My first AG experience has already taught me many things. And cost me lots of $$$. It looks like a Barley Crusher is in my future.
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Old 10-05-2007, 11:13 PM   #54
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I finally realized - the idiot that I am - why no homebrew shop, local or online, does a good job crushing their grain.

If they give you a bad crush, you end up doing one of two things.

1. You buy more grain to compensate for the low efficiency, or
2. You buy a mill from them and do it yourself.

BRILLIANTLY evil...

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Old 10-06-2007, 12:25 AM   #55
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Thanks, that sounds like my corded drill. It sounds like from the link Cheese posted (thanks, bro!) that the Crankenstein, while a bit more robust, needs a bit more OOMPH to power it.

A decent drill takes care of that. My 18v DeWalt goes through 25# of grain on my Cranknstein in no time. Building a hopper was easy, too. I built one out of ductwork. I like the 5 gallon bottle idea, too.
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A decent drill takes care of that. My 18v DeWalt goes through 25# of grain on my Cranknstein in no time. Building a hopper was easy, too. I built one out of ductwork. I like the 5 gallon bottle idea, too.
I bought the Crankandstein and am totally pleased. It comes pregapped with a hopper and wood base and is ready to go. Just hooked up my 1/2 in drill chuck to the crusher shaft with flats so it won't spin on the shaft and I got a good crush the first time. The crankandstein is a good choice if you do not want to fool around making hoppers.
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Why did I buy the JSP (non adjustable) mill?
I had money in my pocket, and it was available at a great price. It paid for itself in less than 6 months.

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I finally realized - the idiot that I am - why no homebrew shop, local or online, does a good job crushing their grain.

If they give you a bad crush, you end up doing one of two things.

1. You buy more grain to compensate for the low efficiency, or
2. You buy a mill from them and do it yourself.

BRILLIANTLY evil...
I have to disagree here. My LHBS doesn't crush the grain. They let you do it yourself, using the same mills that they sold me. (They have one mill for light grain, and one for dark).
If you don't like the crush, re-mill it.
Yes, I did buy the mill from them, but it allowed me to buy bulk grain instead of the overpriced 10 lb bags.
They saved me time and money, but made me a happy customer that keeps going back to them.

Isn't this the way things are supposed to work?

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Silly question...I just received my Barley Crusher and it is beautiful. Why do the directions state to run half a pound of grain through the mill and throw it away if it is the first time the mill is used, or it has sat a while?

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To get rid of the machining oils, mouse droppings, rancid grain residue, bacteria, dust etc.

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Just ordered the barley crusher. I need to get a sack o'grain this weekend!

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