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Old 01-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #1
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So I have been through this a thousand times in my head and on paper and the math just doesnt add up.. Why are brewing systems so expensive? There's not enough metal and fabrication in a basic three tier design or a single tier unit to justify the enormous price tags.. Am I missing something?

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Old 01-19-2009, 05:37 PM   #2
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:42 PM   #3
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I concede the niche market point, but especially in economic times like we have today, the value recieved has to be somewhat aligned with price paid.. I dont see the value..

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I concede the niche market point, but especially in economic times like we have today, the value recieved has to be somewhat aligned with price paid.. I dont see the value..
Because a big badaXX brewing system is a luxury toy like a BMW or Lexus. You don't need glimmering stainless steel, digital burner control, and a "happy ending" attachment to make good beer just as you don't need a luxury car to drive to work either.

The biggest reason why some people buy these systems is that they are making up for the lack of "substance", if you know what I mean.
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I think that you will find on this site, the build to buy ratio for brew stands to be about 20 to 1 or more.

So others see it the way that you do.

Which brings up the convenience factor.

If I have more money than time (to build) then the price makes a little more sense.

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There is no mass production which means the builders aren't getting mass discounts on materials, plus there is a lot of specific Skill Labor such as welding and electrical. Requires actual skilled laborers, not just minimum wage teenager or uneducated assembly line workers to build them

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The biggest reason why some people buy these systems is that they are making up for the lack of "substance", if you know what I mean.
That's nuts. I make great beer out of a cooler and a turkey burner with a 15 gallon aluminum pot. If I had the 5 grand I would jump all over the Sabco. I have most of the knowledge and ability to build a system, but don't care to devote the massive hours required to do so.
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That's nuts. I make great beer out of a cooler and a turkey burner with a 15 gallon aluminum pot. If I had the 5 grand I would jump all over the Sabco. I have most of the knowledge and ability to build a system, but don't care to devote the massive hours required to do so.
I should have put the symbol there. Amazing how not using it makes a big difference. I'm kidding dude.
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You would be surprised how much those systems cost by the time you add everything up.

Check out my sig links and you will see that my system with "free" labor and bargain hunting will still cost about $4000 at least. There is a lot that goes into those shiney systems and none of the parts are consumer grade. Almost everything is industrial, where price is way different that going to Walmart.

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I should have put the symbol there. Amazing how not using it makes a big difference. I'm kidding dude.
Oh, I thought it was a bad beer/tiny pecker joke. I would still love to buy a Sabco, but it won't happen in this lifetime.
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