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Old 10-30-2012, 09:22 PM   #1
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I got a couple recently and am using one currently as a primary. I like how light it is and all that but whenever I touch the thing it sucks in all the star-san thats in the airlock. Not a big deal but what if it's been sitting awhile, the solution in the air-lock could get nasty, dirt, fruit flies, whatever and all that is now in your brew.

Probably going to get rid of them and get some ale-pales for replacement. Do you guys experience this same thing?

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Old 10-30-2012, 09:30 PM   #2
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I got a couple recently and am using one currently as a primary. I like how light it is and all that but whenever I touch the thing it sucks in all the star-san thats in the airlock. Not a big deal but what if it's been sitting awhile, the solution in the air-lock could get nasty, dirt, fruit flies, whatever and all that is now in your brew.

Probably going to get rid of them and get some ale-pales for replacement. Do you guys experience this same thing?
Milk crates.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:36 PM   #3
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How are you getting things into the airlock to begin with? Don't you have the cap on it?? What's in the airlock will get 'nasty' no matter what it's installed into. Doesn't matter if it's in a stopper in a carboy, or lid of a bucket.

I used the Better Bottle (and that type) of carboy for my batches (of beer) early on. I used the glass carboys for my mead batches. IME, buckets were a PITA top get the lid off, once closed properly. IF the one you're using is sucking back when you touch it, you're doing something wrong.

Personally, I use neither if at all possible. I have adapted/converted sanke kegs that I ferment in. MUCH happier with those. Two, stronger than you, handles built into each fermenter. 100% light tight, and zero chance of air getting through it. Zero chance of breaking, or melting. Plus, I don't need to put them into anything else to safely carry them (like many people do for either glass, or plastic, carboys. Chances are extremely high you'll NEVER see me use a bucket fermenter ever again. If I was given one, I'd find another use for it. Probably to catch grain from my mill.

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Old 10-30-2012, 09:38 PM   #4
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For me, it's the weight. They are easier to haul around, and whoever suggested the milk crate idea was spot on in terms of moving them.

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Old 10-30-2012, 09:39 PM   #5
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They are higher quality than buckets but not breakable like glass. I pick them up by the top and that isn't flexible like the sides so it doesn't suck in through the airlock

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Old 10-30-2012, 09:40 PM   #6
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I have 2 5 gallon and 2 6 gallon and they pretty much collect dust since I started doing everything in the primary only but I do like them as they don't break and are much lighter than glass. I am actually going to be using one this weekend to rack my holiday ale into for bulk conditioning a couple months.

As for suck back, yes that can happen if you squeeze the vessel. Put it in a milk crate as suggested and use that to move it, eliminates squeezing the plastic

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+1 for milk crates. Should use a milk crate for glass too, but at least glass doesn't flex. Milk crates just make carrying carboys easier no matter if they're glass or plastic.

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i have three kids and the idea of them knocking off a glass carboy, or any way glass could break is the reason for me. I like them better aesthetically than buckets, but use both. i will admit, they are harder to clean than buckets

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+1 to using milk crates if you have to move them.

I don't have much of a need to move them once I have racked beer/applewine into them. The only times I really move my fermenters are from brew area to fermenting area, and then later from fermenting area to bottling/kegging area. An easy solution, if you don't have spare milk crates lying around, is to not put the airlock on till you get the better bottle in place where it will remain for fermenting. If you're concerned about nasties floating into the neck, just put a piece of sanitized tinfoil over it, but I wouldn't bother unless you're moving a long distance.

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Buy a double bubble airlock. Problem solved for under a dollar.

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