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Old 12-11-2010, 12:46 AM   #11
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The working word here is "equivanent." Can you pop your disconnect off a keg and charge a pet bottle, then return it to the keg? Didn't think so.
Sure looks to me like you can. Unless "equivanent" means something different than equivalent.
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The working word here is "equivanent." Can you pop your disconnect off a keg and charge a pet bottle, then return it to the keg? Didn't think so.
Yes, you pretty much can. If you look at the product page, it includes the chuck-to-ball-lock adapter to make that work. Just pop the disconnect off of your keg, snap the adapter on it, charge a bottle, and then remove the adapter and put the disconnect back on the keg. Easy peasey.
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The working word here is "equivanent." Can you pop your disconnect off a keg and charge a pet bottle, then return it to the keg? Didn't think so.
Maybe I don't understand, but yes.
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Old 12-11-2010, 12:54 AM   #14
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Making carbonator caps has been the easiest and cheapest beer related DIY project I have done so far.

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Old 12-11-2010, 01:47 AM   #15
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The working word here is "equivanent." Can you pop your disconnect off a keg and charge a pet bottle, then return it to the keg? Didn't think so.
Exactly!

I know there is some time and labor involved in creating a mold for them, but c'mon, once you have them injection mold, then it is gravy from there on out.

There is no reason for them to be $20 a pop. Period.

They are selling convenience, and apparently they have no competition!

All they did was take an actual corny post and make an injection mold out of it, and added the PET bottle screw on, anyone with a mill, some time could accomplish that.

Not saying I have the means, but I know it can be done.

I just don't want to have to have an extra hose with a schrader valve connection on it to fill my bottles.

I know it can be done inexpensively and easily, but I don't wnat ot invest in another co2 tank to make it convenient for me.

I understand that this might sound like incessant bitching, bu thte point here is htere is no reason for these things to be as expensive as they are, none whatsoever.

The company that makes them has had to have sold enough to pay for their overhead, mold, and materials many times over...so the argument that it was expensive to produce is BS. Maybe at one time it was, but I can guarnatee you it isn't anymore...unless there is some guy in his garage making these, and distributing them on his own in his free time...picking up waht I'm putting down?
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I'll bet someone savvy with casting resin and a drill press could make their own at home, but not for less than $20.

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If you look at the product page . . . Easy peasey.
Have to eat crow here. I didn't read or look close enough to see the adapter. Just saw the tire stems and thought you'd need a seperate disconnect.

Not a bad alternative for the price, but I agree with Schnitzengiggle. The price of the Carbonator Caps is too high. We shouldn't have to mess around with an adapter.
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Well.....there IS a reason for these to be the price they are, and it's already been covered in this thread. (So, I suppose this post is redundant, so delete if you wish) It's supply and demand. Products that are in limited demand will perhaps have only one, or a limited number of suppliers, and will be priced accordingly.

The only "should" where supply & demand are concerned was covered by (I believe) Armand Hammer, the late chair of Occidental Petroleum:

"The price of any item in the market is exactly what it will fetch."

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It's all about perceived value. You buy stuff every day that probably has the exact same margin applied but you don't question it.

I agree that it's overpriced and I express that opinion by not buying it. If you can figure out how to build them cheap enough that selling them for $10 each would be profitable, that would be great. I'll buy 4.

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If you can figure out how to build them cheap enough that selling them for $10 each would be profitable, that would be great. I'll buy 4.
That's the easy part. Here's the problem. Pretty broad description!

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Abstract: A method and apparatus for injecting CO.sub.2 gas into a bottled liquid to carbonate or maintain carbonation in the liquid. A valved coupling having a conduit extending there through is screwably attached to a P.E.T. bottle substantially filled with liquid. The valve is depressed .while the bottle is squeezed to remove any excess air in the bottle. Regulated CO.sub.2 gas is then fed through a connector that is attached to the coupling to carbonate the liquid. Once carbonated, the connector is removed while the coupling remains in place to maintain carbonation.
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