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Old 06-10-2012, 01:26 PM   #311
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What is the big advantage to not having to rinse? I use star San but I always rinse anyway. It just seems strange to me to leave any residue in a bucket or carboy. Am I defeating the sanitization by rinsing? I've never had any problems with my procedures but maybe I need to get over my fear of leaving any residue.

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Old 06-10-2012, 02:25 PM   #312
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The advantage of not rinsing is that you don't risk there being sufficient bacteria in the rinse water to leave you with an infected batch of beer. As you surmise, you risk defeating the santization by rinsing.

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Old 06-12-2012, 01:41 AM   #313
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Thanks. That makes sense. But since I use the same water to rinse as I do in my beer (the boil as well as to top off) I'm already exposed to the bacteria in the water anyway.

I can see this being relevant for someone who does full boils, but if you add unboiled water to your primary, does it really add any risk of bacteria?

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Old 07-07-2012, 10:31 PM   #314
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What about clorox wipes for workspace surface sanitation? I use them often and they are good for quick cleanups and surface prep, though a little on the expensive side.
I also use lysol to sanitize the area around where I brew.
Important to note though is not to allow contact with the actual fermenter & brewing equipment, and the flammability of the lysol spray.
Are you talking about surgery or brewing?
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Old 07-07-2012, 10:34 PM   #315
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Haha just replied to a 5 yr old post. Have another one there drinky.

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Old 07-08-2012, 03:08 PM   #316
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Does anyone use a rinsing agent ? I started using Hydrogen Peroxide
after washing the better bottles with oxy before letting them dry it
seems to help the water sheet off the inside of the bottles.

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Old 07-18-2012, 07:11 PM   #317
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OK soaked in Star Stan all night and then went out and got CLR. tried it in a bucket diluted. while soaking in the solution I kept whipping the top with straight CLR. Deposits still there. Arizona has some hard water.
Try vinegar and water. It will nuetralize the acid in the water spots.
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:55 PM   #318
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Hey guys, I have a few quick questions about cleaning/sanitizing.

1. What are the exact differences between cleaning/sanitizing?

2. The only thing I use to prepare my bottles for bottling is non-scented dish soap. Is this sufficient?

3. If not, what effects will it have on my beer?

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Old 07-24-2012, 08:31 PM   #319
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Hey guys, I have a few quick questions about cleaning/sanitizing.

1. What are the exact differences between cleaning/sanitizing?

2. The only thing I use to prepare my bottles for bottling is non-scented dish soap. Is this sufficient?

3. If not, what effects will it have on my beer?
1.A. Cleaning is the removal of material from a surface.

1.B. Sanitizing is killing or rendering inactive microorganisms on a surface.

As you can see, these are quite different things. Cleaning is generally accomplished with soaps, detergents, surfactants, etc. Sanitizing is accomplished by chemicals that sanitize per the above definition.

2. No. You need to sanitize the interior of the bottle, which the dish soap (although it may do a perfectly good job of cleaning) does not do. I use Star San, squirted up into the bottle with a vinator (a sort of pump). Both of these products are available at finer homebrew supply outlets everywhere.

3. The bottle part? Maybe nothing, maybe you'll get random bad bottles of beer.
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Old 08-15-2012, 02:11 PM   #320
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Since Oxiclean now has several different products and names have gotten more elaborate, and there are several other brands of products that contain Oxiclean, it can be confusing as to which product is used as an equipment cleaner. Just having "Oxyclean" listed in the original post is a little obsolete (and mispelled). So........

I think I've figured out which product is used:

Oxiclean Versatile Stain Remover Free (powder)

3 lb. Rectangular Tub


3.5 Round Tub


If this is the correct product, maybe a mod or the OP could edit the original post to say:

Oxiclean Versatile Stain Remover Free (powder)


On a side note, most of us remember this product first showing up on the sheister-y late night As Seen On TV commercials. Apparently this product's "Carny" beginnings have not been shed entirely. The smaller 3 lb tub is usually 7-8 bucks, while the larger 3.5 lb tub is sold for 15-16 bucks. It looks like there are larger 5 and 6 pound tubs available as well, which seem to be priced appropriately. But that 3.5 lb. round tub seems to be a rip off.

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