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Old 11-21-2007, 08:47 PM   #11
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I've read dish washer detergent will will leave a film on what is washes.

Plus any dishwashing detergent will cut down on head retention if used on your beer glasses.
I'm the person that posted suggesting dishwasher detergent. I've read the same things too and I have no reason to doubt that it's true with some brands of dishwasher detergent. The problem as I understand it is caused by the rinse aid component of the product.

I use a brand called Calgonite. It has no rinse aid, no fragrance and no colours or dyes. If you can't find this brand look for a pack that says something like "for best results make sure you buy our rinse aid" and there's probably no rinse aid in it.

I have no problems with head retention and always have a great lace.

I like it because it's dirt cheap and it does a great job. Wear gloves though, diswasher detergent is not nice for your skin.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:40 PM   #12
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I have always used bleach to sanitize my brewing equipment. Star san has got my attention. Can I really fill my fermenter (6.5 gal. plastic bucket) with star san, wait a bit dump it out, and fill with wort? No rinse and no drying? It just sounds too good to be true.

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:12 PM   #13
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I started using Oxyclean for cleaning. I fill my carboy with it and after a short time, there's nothing left to brush. Awesome!

I switched from bleach to Star San on my last 2 batches. It works fine especially for bottling. No more rinsing. Just fill, let sit for a few minutes and dump out.

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:23 PM   #14
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Anyone got tricks for cleaning a better bottle? Is oxyclean my best shot? I know not to scrub it.

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Old 11-23-2007, 09:35 PM   #15
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Always rinse imediately after draining with warm water.
Then Oxyclean is the way to go.

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Old 11-23-2007, 11:07 PM   #16
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Always rinse imediately after draining with warm water.
Then Oxyclean is the way to go.
Sounds like a plan. Thanks!
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Old 11-25-2007, 03:49 PM   #17
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I just got some brewing equipment from my cousin and there was star san in it this stuff is at least 7 years old does star san go bad?

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Old 11-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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I've gotten into the routine of using Oxyclean (or B-brite) for carboys and bottles immediately after they are emptied. A short soak, and a rinse or two with tap water, and they can go into storage. Then a quick swish of Iodophor solution (1/2 teaspoon Iodophor to just a little under 1 gallon of water) just before I use them, and in 2 minutes I'm ready to roll.

FYI, I did a little experiment with Iodophor. Once I mixed up my solution and sanitized my bottles, I started filling my bottles as normal. When I got to the last two bottles, I put a tablespoon of the Iodophor solution in each bottle, then filled with beer. Guess what? They carbonated just as well as all the others, and they actually tasted fine. I was shocked that I couldn't even detect any flavor from the Iodophor, and that it didn't hamper the yeast activity. Now I don't sweat getting the last few drops of sanitizer out of the bottles on bottling day.

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Excessive Iodine is poisonous!

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I was still way below the threshold of getting any ill effects. Besides, beer makes everything OK.

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