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Old 11-27-2007, 03:09 PM   #1
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Has anyone had experience with this type of Grain Mill? I brew extract with specialty grains so this mill appears it might just be the one I need.

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Old 11-27-2007, 10:42 PM   #2
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never heard of that one.
is it similar to a Corona mill? if you're only cracking a few pounds of specialty grains for steeping, I would stick to a $20 mill like Corona.

or a marble rolling pin

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Old 11-28-2007, 11:31 AM   #3
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Not sure. I will look into the Corona mill as well. Any experience with that?

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Corona's are cheap (don't spend more than $20) and probably adequate for grinding a pound of specialty grain. If you ever get into AG or even doing decent-sized partial mashes, you really would want something better. VERY hard to control the grind; it's rare when people are able to get good efficiency, at least with any consistency, with a Corona. But, that's not an issue if you're just cracking a little crytal, it's just not something that you can really scale up if you ultimately go AG.

I don't know anything about the Victoria mill other than it LOOKS exactly like a Corona but MoreBeer says it's not... in any case, if you are looking at it new, I would REALLY hesitate to drop $60 on it, as for $120 you can get an excellent, excellent mill that will work for you for life, regardless of where your brewing takes you (the Barley Crusher).

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Old 11-28-2007, 01:13 PM   #5
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I don't mean to pick on you Bird, but I respectfully disagree. Are you basing this opinion that "Coronas=bad" on experience?

When you ask people about their experience with the mill, you actually hear about a lot more successes with Corona's than failures. See here:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=32437

I think these mills have an unfair bad reputation. Yes, you will find someone who didn't like theirs, but that could be said of any product, I am sure.

FWIW, I use a Porkert mill (Corona knock-off) and was getting efficiency in the 70's on my second batch (now mine are all in the high-70's or low 80's consistently). It's not actually hard to control the grind, it is just hard to switch it back and forth between different grinds/crushes (that's where an adjustable roller mill shines).

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Old 11-28-2007, 01:19 PM   #6
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I don't mean to pick on you Bird, but I respectfully disagree. Are you basing this opinion that "Coronas=bad" on experience?

When you ask people about their experience with the mill, you actually hear about a lot more successes with Corona's than failures. See here:
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=32437

I think these mills have an unfair bad reputation. Yes, you will find someone who didn't like theirs, but that could be said of any product, I am sure.

FWIW, I use a Porkert mill (Corona knock-off) and was getting efficiency in the 70's on my second batch (now mine are all in the high-70's or low 80's consistently). It's not actually hard to control the grind, it is just hard to switch it back and forth between different grinds/crushes (that's where an adjustable roller mill shines).
Notice that I said that it's "rare" that people get good efficiency with a Corona, not that it never happened.

I knew that SOMEONE here (couldn't remember, but now I remember that it was you) reported that you were having success with it, but I've heard from a lot more people (2nd Street comes to mind, but there are dozens of others) who have had a b*tch of a time getting much above 50% - 60%. That's what kept me from bothering with a Corona when I decided I needed to invest in a mill - didn't want to buy twice.

So, bully for you if you've got it right - but I wouldn't be dropping $60 on something that looks EXACTLY like a Corona without knowing exactly what made it different from a Corona, when it's really not that much more to get into a mill that everyone who has used it reports great success with.

(I was basing the $60 off of where I saw it priced at Morebeer; I see it other places online for less than that).
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Yes, agreed that $60 is ridiculous. That's twice what that mill is worth.

And I guess I was trying to rebutt the point that success with a Corona-style mill is *rare*. Maybe there is a bias, but when the topic ever comes up, I seem to hear about a lot more successes than failure.

A caveat -- these mills do require some patience to set up. But once it is dialed in, you can just set and forget.

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What I still don't understand (and what I think the OP was asking originally) is how this "Victoria Grain Mill" is different from a traditional Corona. OP, wish I could help, but I've neither seen it myself nor heard of anyone using that particular mill.

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Old 11-28-2007, 01:38 PM   #9
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What I still don't understand (and what I think the OP was asking originally) is how this "Victoria Grain Mill" is different from a traditional Corona. OP, wish I could help, but I've neither seen it myself nor heard of anyone using that particular mill.
I've seen the Victoria mill before (though have no direct use personally). My brother's bakery used one for milling various ingredients occasionally. It's essentially identical to the Corona, just slightly different construction. It's still just a turning disk against a fixed plate. I imagine it would work equally well (I'm in FlyGuy's camp on this one, I get mid to high 80's with my Porkert).

If it's $60 at morebeer though I wouldn't even consider paying that, checking ebay should net a corona-style mill for 15-20 I would think.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:47 PM   #10
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Great information, guys. I will definitely look at all of the mills you suggest. Exactly the opinions and discussion I was looking for!

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