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Old 12-15-2008, 03:53 PM   #61
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Been reading this thread and getting excited about being able to afford a mill. But there hasn't been anyone yet actually brew a batch with it and post efficiencey results. Anybody? Only number were Revvy missing by 23 points. I know this was first pass no adjustments, but the only numbers I've seen and not too promising. Anyone. I really wanna see someone posting saying they nailed their OG
Uh missing by 23 points was that old meat grinder I was working with in the summer, to see if THAT could have been modded into a corona mill...Which I never got around to finishing.
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Well, I'll be brewing with this come January...I'm on brewing break at the moment, too many projects going on. Now that I have my second burner, I'm going to be plumbing in the black pipe so I can use one tank instead of two. Plus trying to make a grain mill out of a pasta machine. And I just finished my new keggle (part2) and cleaning up my draft tower. And oh yeah, it's Christmas.

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I wonder if Harbor freight has a cheap knurling bit, maybe one that couled even fit in a dremel tool, and maybe you can rig up a jig and knurl them yourself.
I have no idea what a knurling bit is, or how I would build a jig to use one, but I'll look into it. The rollers on the cheap machine from Michaels are very thin...I have a few plans in mind but I'm waiting for the equipment to show up. Does one pattern work better than another? I notice on most of the commercial mills the knurling is done in a diamond pattern, but would a square pattern work out as well do you think?
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Old 12-15-2008, 08:50 PM   #63
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Here's a link with a video of motorizing it with an electric juicer machine.

Polymer Clay Bytes! - Tina Holden's Beadcomber: Best Pasta Machine Motor for Polymer Clay

Aren't you guys lucky I've walked this world as well, years ago I was a polymer clay artist and in the Natl Guild...

you should be able to motorize it by using keystock from homedepot. with a little grinding on the drill side to make it 8 sided rather then 4 sided should work. ill have to look at my pasta machine and the handle but i am sure it would be pretty easy to do. if all else i could use my press to straighten the handle then cut it off
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Square stock wouldn't work...the hole is round with just a slot for the tang on the handle. However, the shank of a cheap screwdriver might work. All you'd have to do is break the handle off...viola...instant round driveshaft with the correct drive tang on it! (Although I think the handle has only one and the screwdriver (we're talking handle end here) would have two so one might need to be ground off.
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So I haven't posted in a while, I have to admit it's because I was kind of jealous. Gonefishin snuck ahead of me one this one and I was hoping to be the leading researcher. But I have not given up. That'll teach me to post my ideas before I start working on them...I'm going to play around with the finish on the rollers and see if I can't come up with a good way to knurl those rollers, then work on motorizing and stand building. The nice thing about the mill standing so high off the base is it gives you a lot of room to mount a pulley if you needed to...
Hey, I'm sorry... I didn't mean to steal your thunder or anything. I am just one of those impulsive do-it-now-or-never-do-it types and I was intriqued with the idea that I might be able to mill grain for $20. Mine is just a wicked crude prototype, you can certainly be the one who figures out how to make the rollers work really well so the output speed is higher. Please don't be jealous that I jumped on this ... let's just all work together in HBT fashion and make this something that people come to HBT for the tech advice on this beautiful little gadget.
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Ok, this is what I brewed
6 lbs american 2 row
4 oz flaked rye
4 oz carawheat
4 oz crystal 60

cluster hops 1 oz at 60 minutes and another with a minute or two left in boil
us-05 yeast

According to Beersmith my OG should have been 1.061. I boiled off way too much water so my first reading was 1.093. I added a gallon of spring water to get the volume I had planned on having (3 gallons) and mixed well...took another reading, which temp corrected to 1.056.
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Hey, I'm sorry... I didn't mean to steal your thunder or anything. I am just one of those impulsive do-it-now-or-never-do-it types and I was intriqued with the idea that I might be able to mill grain for $20. Mine is just a wicked crude prototype, you can certainly be the one who figures out how to make the rollers work really well so the output speed is higher. Please don't be jealous that I jumped on this ... let's just all work together in HBT fashion and make this something that people come to HBT for the tech advice on this beautiful little gadget.
No no don't be sorry, I was just joking. I'm glad somebody did it first, because now that I know it can be done I'm much more willing to do it. In HBT fashion, I'm just going to throw out the ideas I'm working on for surfacing the rollers.

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For most of these, I'm planning on a square grid style pattern, as it will be much easier than a diamond knurl. I'm thinking for most of my ideas, I'll just motorize the thing to cut the vertical lines, then carefully hand cut the horozontal (parallel to the gap) lines. I'm really worried about how thin the metal on the Michaels roller mills are, I took them apart and they don't look very sturdy. Of course, I'm used to my Atlas Pasta Queen.

1) A metal engraving tool, the kind you write your name on kitchen knives and the like with...

2) A cutting wheel on my dremel...I'm thinking this might work, but I'm worried about cutting too deep.

3) If I can find one of these knurling tools fairly cheap, I'm wondering if there is some way I can get these rollers onto a wood lathe, my girlfriends dad has one in his house. I'm thinking just finding the right size dowel to shove through the middle of the tube then hook it up on the lathe.

#3 is obviously my last resort option. I'm going to check out #2 tommorrow, as I don't have the engraver yet. (I'm borrowing).

Also, for a motorized chuck, at least for a drill, I'm thinking a very small spade bit would work. I have a 1/4" one that is just a tad too big. The flat head will fit very nicely into the slotted reciever, and it's already meant for the drill. I'm not sure how the juicer would work with this. I do have some concerns about the juicer, mainly that you need to slow it down significantly, I would think. that's why I asked if the pedal thing worked like a rheostat. I'm thinking AC Dimmer switch to outlet with the juicer plugged in would be another option for those of us without a sewing machine pedal hanging around.
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Here's a link to a knurling tool and dies...Metal Cutting Tools from BrassAndTool.com - Providing Machinists with Quality Tools and Materials



Another thought is a a set of metal/leather working dies and a small chasing hammer. Check out Michael's. You may just be able to stamp in a knurled pattern with a die and small hammer. Like these...

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Those rollers are hard...I was hitting really hard with my file to get the surface roughed up. I like the idea of the engraver... I think that'll work better than the dremel tool. I also like the wood lathe idea, but think the cost of the knurling tool would defeat the purpose of making these mills
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Or... there's this
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