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Old 12-14-2008, 02:08 PM   #51
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I'm going to have to try it.... handcranking is just too slow, enough grain for a 5 gallon batch would take forever. I'm excited with this though...doing AG means I can brew more because grain is a lot cheaper than extract.
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Well, I think this is one of the things where HBT has just contributed to the body of knowledge of homebrewing once again, in a big way...

Googling it shows that it has been brought up on a couple beerboards, but the discussion is usually shot down, or dies at the idea phase. (Probably because no one's come in and mentioned it's use in polymer clay for the last 2 decades.) So it looks like this thread and 'fisihing's blog are the difinitive discussion on it.

In fact the blog is now the top of the google hit's on the subject. (In fact buddy, why don't you post a link back to this thread on your blog, so that any homebrewing googlers who stumble upon you blog, can come in here to see the development of this idea AND can discover the wonderful world that is HBT.

Oh, and it appears that we weren't too far off to begin with. Marcato, which is a maker of fine quality pastamachines, also makes a grain mill. Evidently the only difference is that the rollers are knurled rather than smooth, otherwise it appears that the chassis is identical.




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I wonder if the gears could be swapped for stronger ones. I was just reading the marcato link and they mention that the gears on the grain mill were "heat treated" for extra srength. I wonder if any machininsts on here know about it, or can suggest replaceing these gears with something stronger.

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So for about 1/4 of the price, you can just buy the Pasta model and DIY it a little bit and BAM! Now you have a Grain Mill.
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Once again, the collective genius of HBT produces yet another furtherance for home brewing.
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So for about 1/4 of the price, you can just buy the Pasta model and DIY it a little bit and BAM! Now you have a Grain Mill.

Looks like it. We need to see some tests on efficiency with these things. Get a few brews going and see how good the crushes are on them. I betcha since it's exactly the same setup as a barley crusher (parallel rollers) it's gonna be just as good.

(Which will piss off the malt mill and barley crusher nazis to no end, some of them get positively apoplectic when you mention that you can get good brews with anything other than there beloved expensive machines. No one wants to even admit that if a 20 dollar corona grain mill can net Charlie Papazian 87% efficiency for 30+ years, then maybe the barley crusher or malt mill isn't the only shizzel on the block. I'm not saying all owners of those mills are like that, but there are a few on here, just like there are AG and Stainless Steel zealots on here as well. )


My only regret is that Someone didn't resurrect this thread before I started jacking up my new freeby corona mill....Otherwise I'd have a go myself....I might still down the line. But until then I'll contend with being the technical/spiritual advisor of this thread...Anytime someone says "you can't" about some aspect of it, I'll dig out another polymer clay article that says you can...Like I said they've been doing this for over 20 years and even before they came out with the 20 dollar version. I think I originally paid at a cooking shop 60 for my first one when I was doing clay.
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Once again, Revvy, good thinking.... blog article updated with a link to this thread, and links list updated to include HBT.
I think efficency is going to be pretty good with this.... it's pretty adjustable and first time out of the box (ok, out of the workshop...) I think I got almost 80% with it, and I'll freely admit that I'm no grain milling expert.
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So I haven't posted in a while, I have to admit it's because I was kind of jealous. Gonefishin snuck ahead of me one this one and I was hoping to be the leading researcher. But I have not given up. That'll teach me to post my ideas before I start working on them...I'm going to play around with the finish on the rollers and see if I can't come up with a good way to knurl those rollers, then work on motorizing and stand building. The nice thing about the mill standing so high off the base is it gives you a lot of room to mount a pulley if you needed to...
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So I haven't posted in a while, I have to admit it's because I was kind of jealous. Gonefishin snuck ahead of me one this one and I was hoping to be the leading researcher. But I have not given up. That'll teach me to post my ideas before I start working on them...I'm going to play around with the finish on the rollers and see if I can't come up with a good way to knurl those rollers, then work on motorizing and stand building. The nice thing about the mill standing so high off the base is it gives you a lot of room to mount a pulley if you needed to...
I wonder if Harbor freight has a cheap knurling bit, maybe one that couled even fit in a dremel tool, and maybe you can rig up a jig and knurl them yourself.
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Been reading this thread and getting excited about being able to afford a mill. But there hasn't been anyone yet actually brew a batch with it and post efficiencey results. Anybody? Only number were Revvy missing by 23 points. I know this was first pass no adjustments, but the only numbers I've seen and not too promising. Anyone. I really wanna see someone posting saying they nailed their OG
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