The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Equipment/Sanitation > Thinking of buying Better Bottle -- a few questions

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 12-06-2007, 09:23 PM   #1
CallMeZoot
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 131
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default Thinking of buying Better Bottle -- a few questions

I'm thinking of picking up a Better Bottle but my LHBS only carries them special-order, so I won't be able to see one in person. Thought I'd ask a few questions here:

1.) 5 gallon or 6 gallon? I'm primarily brew 5-gallon batches, and the Better Bottle would be for secondary fermenting -- so I assume 5 gallon is best, to avoid oxidation. By the time I'm in secondary, I shouldn't need any head room for pressure/blowoff, right?

2.) Is a "ported" bottle just a Better Bottle with a hole in it, or is there something sealing the hole when the valve is not installed? In other words, can I use a ported Better Bottle without the valve installed?

3.) What's the preferred method for sealing -- carboy cap and airlock?

Thanks,
chris.

__________________
CallMeZoot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 09:45 PM   #2
abracadabra
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
abracadabra's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Newnan, Georgia
Posts: 1,925
Liked 6 Times on 6 Posts

Default

Dude

Consider using a 5 gal. cornie keg as a secondary instead. Cornie kegs are stainless steel, they are light weight, more rugged than a plastic better bottle. Unlike a better bottle you won't have to worry about light skunking your beer. And they cost about the same thing. The modification you'd have to make would be easy and with the large cornie lid you could easily dry hop if you wanted to.

And last but not least if you decide you want to keg you can do it straight out of the secondary keg.

An additional advantage of cornies is that you can rack using co2 and not expose your beer to oxygen.

__________________
Do what you like!
Brew what you like!

Last edited by abracadabra; 12-06-2007 at 10:08 PM.
abracadabra is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 09:47 PM   #3
CallMeZoot
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 131
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Hmmm, maybe I'll try that. I just bought a kegerator kit but haven't bought a keg or C02 tank yet.

Where can I get one of these kegs?

Thanks,
chris.

__________________
CallMeZoot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 09:50 PM   #4
McKBrew
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
McKBrew's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hayden, Idaho
Posts: 8,292
Liked 30 Times on 27 Posts
Likes Given: 8

Default

If you are using the better bottle for secondary, the five gallon size is fine. The ported ones have a hole drilled, then you have to buy a bunch more stuff just to fill the hole. Get a regular BB it's cheaper.

__________________

Make Beer, Not War.

McKBrew is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:02 PM   #5
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,117
Liked 558 Times on 330 Posts
Likes Given: 198

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeZoot
Hmmm, maybe I'll try that. I just bought a kegerator kit but haven't bought a keg or C02 tank yet.

Where can I get one of these kegs?

Thanks,
chris.
Here you go.

Well worth the investment. I just dragged two cornies outside as secondaries to cold condition. They're easy to move around.

Only drawback is that if you have a larger than 5 gallon batch, it can be a tight squeeze.

I say you compromise. Buy two BB's and five cornies.
BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:11 PM   #6
CallMeZoot
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 131
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Thanks for the link.

When you use a keg for secondary, can you just tap it directly at the end of the secondary period (after adding priming sugar)? Or do you transfer it to another keg to clear sediment, etc?

chris.

__________________

Last edited by CallMeZoot; 12-06-2007 at 10:15 PM.
CallMeZoot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:15 PM   #7
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,117
Liked 558 Times on 330 Posts
Likes Given: 198

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeZoot
Thanks for the link.

When you use a keg for secondary, can you just tap it directly at the end of the secondary period? Or do you transfer it to another keg to clear sediment, etc?

chris.
Either / or.

Wheats, wits and such, you're okay to tap direct. My other beers that I like crystal clear...I rerack to another keg.

I also cut or bend my liquid dip tubes so they aren't resting dirctly on the bottom of the keg. Get about 3/8's inch of clearance and you'll avoid a lot of sediment.
__________________

*******
Check Out My Rolling Kegerator

BierMuncher Tried & Trues:
Tits-Up IIPA (3-Time Medalist), Black Pearl Porter, Kona Pale Ale, Outer Limits IPA, Centennial Blonde (4.0%), Nierra Sevada (SNPA), SWMBO Slayer Belgian Blonde,

BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:16 PM   #8
CallMeZoot
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 131
Liked 2 Times on 2 Posts

Default

Do you add priming sugar directly to the keg? Does that effect how long it takes to carbonate?

chris.

__________________
CallMeZoot is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:27 PM   #9
firepunk
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 55
Default

I just finished using my BB for the first time. Its a ported one, with the racking doodad and It worked great. A little slow, but otherwise fine. I simply move the end of the racking adapter to just above the trub and badabing badaboom, siphoned off without sucking up any (or very little) trub.

I have the 6 gal. BB and so far, love it.

__________________

On deck: Something... maybe a pear cider.
Fermenting: German Hefe
Kegged: Nada ATM

"Who could possibly need 5 gallons of beer?" -swmbo in reference to me buying a homebrew kit.

firepunk is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-06-2007, 10:31 PM   #10
BierMuncher
...My Junk is Ugly...
HBT_MODERATOR.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
BierMuncher's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 12,117
Liked 558 Times on 330 Posts
Likes Given: 198

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CallMeZoot
Do you add priming sugar directly to the keg? Does that effect how long it takes to carbonate?

chris.
If you're bottling, you could add the corn sugar to the keg at the end of the conditioning period and then rack to bottles. You would not want to add sugar at the beginning, unless you have a keg dispensing setup.
__________________

*******
Check Out My Rolling Kegerator

BierMuncher Tried & Trues:
Tits-Up IIPA (3-Time Medalist), Black Pearl Porter, Kona Pale Ale, Outer Limits IPA, Centennial Blonde (4.0%), Nierra Sevada (SNPA), SWMBO Slayer Belgian Blonde,

BierMuncher is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
material buying questions? hersch86 General Beer Discussion 0 10-31-2009 04:55 PM
Questions before buying equipment rrittenhouse Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 44 09-14-2009 05:58 AM
Thinking of starting to brew my own, questions. dole21 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 9 01-22-2009 05:32 AM
Thinking about stocking up on grains, but have some questions humann_brewing Recipes/Ingredients 7 10-31-2008 09:14 PM
Thinking of going to AG; a few questions TheJadedDog All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 9 03-10-2007 01:51 AM



Newest Threads